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Dunno about that but I would like to know if any tech people cam answer this. Nonetheless, they'd have to prove the toona did it and also there's some law that prevents them from saying "no" to a warranty claim. Just dont know what law it is. Seen it on here before. Lemme search... Regardless you should have a DS. It's really a must have...IMO
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Dunno about that but I would like to know if any tech people cam answer this. Nonetheless, they'd have to prove the toona did it and also there's some law that prevents them from saying "no" to a warranty claim. Just dont know what law it is. Seen it on here before. Lemme search... Regardless you should have a DS. It's really a must have...IMO
Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act

Unfortunately, I think custom tuning and altered transmission shift points and firmness would give them an easy out: "more HP, transmission couldn't handle it, shifting wasn't meant to be that 'firm', etc"

...but that's IF they can even tell the ECU was messed with. Any Chrysler techs in here?
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Old 09-12-2011, 12:13 PM
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Re: DiabloSport Predator - Tweaking Suggestions

Yes that one! lol Hmmm interesting! I took my Jeep in for some stuff, (checked the tranny) tuned it back to stock and not a word from them!

Def would love to know fo sho tho.

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Re: DiabloSport Predator - Tweaking Suggestions

Do you guys really think the techs are looking to see if its been messed with? Cmon. Most techs could care less. They deal with vehicles day in day out, they are more interested in getting through their workload than seeing if your trans goes into OD at 50 mph instead of 40.

It becomes a different story if you go in and whine about your trans failing and they start looking at your line pressure, etc etc etc. But for general unrelated maintenance? I wouldnt worry about it.
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Do you guys really think the techs are looking to see if its been messed with? Cmon. Most techs could care less. They deal with vehicles day in day out, they are more interested in getting through their workload than seeing if your trans goes into OD at 50 mph instead of 40.

It becomes a different story if you go in and whine about your trans failing and they start looking at your line pressure, etc etc etc. But for general unrelated maintenance? I wouldnt worry about it.
The techs may not care but everything is computerized now. A lot can be logged in the ECU then read by the dealer. Some dealers will try to weasel their way out of warranty work over the littlest things because warranty work pays less than regular repair work. Why do you think the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act exists?

Of course unrelated things wont be an issue, that's why I brought up the trans. If a transmission goes bad and the dealer can tell you've messed with the ECU, they'd have grounds to deny warranty work. The dealer can tell the last time the ECU was reflashed. Say you reinstall the factory tune, they can tell when it was reflashed, and if that time doesn't correspond to the last time your vehicle was serviced, they can tell somethings up.

The transmission on my WJ went up at 20k, so I'm a little cautious now...
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Re: DiabloSport Predator - Tweaking Suggestions

I dont know about gas, but the diesel's have "tattle tales".they show what & how many times something was changed. We're not dealing with 1000ft lbs like some of them are though.

Edit: im talking about the big ones, like the cummins.
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The techs may not care but everything is computerized now. A lot can be logged in the ECU then read by the dealer. Some dealers will try to weasel their way out of warranty work over the littlest things because warranty work pays less than regular repair work. Why do you think the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act exists?

Of course unrelated things wont be an issue, that's why I brought up the trans. If a transmission goes bad and the dealer can tell you've messed with the ECU, they'd have grounds to deny warranty work. The dealer can tell the last time the ECU was reflashed. Say you reinstall the factory tune, they can tell when it was reflashed, and if that time doesn't correspond to the last time your vehicle was serviced, they can tell somethings up.

The transmission on my WJ went up at 20k, so I'm a little cautious now...
Your point is valid but more or less implied by my last post.

Of course they have grounds to deny warranty work...Especially with some of the quirks that PCM tuning/flashing has. See my second paragraph. If you ran some hack PCM tune (and alot of them are just that, hacks) and it fries your trans, it should be your problem, not the dealer's.

Maybe I should rephrase my previous statement, since it was not clearly stated: ANYTIME you tinker with , more than any other aspect, the electronics that govern an engine/transmissions ability to operate, you run the risk of getting your warranty voided. Particularly when the maintenance being done is repair related, not typical servicing.

I am done with Chrysler automatics, if I end up with a Mopar again I will modify and race it, the difference is next time I will do it with a third pedal involved.
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Re: DiabloSport Predator - Tweaking Suggestions

any diffrence between the DS and the trinity ....besides the screen....does it add more tunes? or can i do the same with the standard DS
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any diffrence between the DS and the trinity ....besides the screen....does it add more tunes? or can i do the same with the standard DS
Tuning is the same for both. However, the Trinity has extras like virtual gauges, datalogging, TCM support, can read and clear trouble codes, virtual dragstrip, and is easier to use.
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