Go Back   Jeep Garage - Jeep Forum > Modifications & Enhancements > Performance Modifications

Join Jeep Garage Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
  #1  
Old 04-09-2010, 08:52 PM
NHWK05's Avatar
Senior Member
My Jeep: 2005 4.7L WK
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Hooksett, NH
Posts: 5,113
Thanks: 0
Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts
Rep Power: 94649
NHWK05 has a reputation beyond reputeNHWK05 has a reputation beyond reputeNHWK05 has a reputation beyond reputeNHWK05 has a reputation beyond reputeNHWK05 has a reputation beyond reputeNHWK05 has a reputation beyond reputeNHWK05 has a reputation beyond reputeNHWK05 has a reputation beyond reputeNHWK05 has a reputation beyond reputeNHWK05 has a reputation beyond reputeNHWK05 has a reputation beyond repute
Do i need a tune?

I have my custom side exhaust with a magnaflow style muffler, Stock Air box with K&N filter, custom air box to TB plenum tubing, removed the air intake cover behind the grille and in a week or so i will have an FRP Ported TB.

Will i need to save up for a tune to get my jeep to run right or will it be ok or learn itself?

05 4.7 V8.
__________________

__________________
-Kyle '05 Dark Khaki (PJT) WK Limited 4.7L V8, '08 Overland Front End, Custom Exhaust, 245/70/17 GY Silent Armors, Bilstein 4600s, K40 Calibre DL Radar Detector/Laser Diffuser, CB.
Wife's Jeep: '06 Jeep Liberty KJ 4x4 2.8L CRD Diesel
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-09-2010, 09:17 PM
Scottina06's Avatar
JeepGarage Founder
My Jeep: 2014 6.4L SRT8 WK2
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Berea, Kentucky
Posts: 49,375
Thanks: 874
Thanked 1,043 Times in 718 Posts
Rep Power: 7718290
Scottina06 has a reputation beyond reputeScottina06 has a reputation beyond reputeScottina06 has a reputation beyond reputeScottina06 has a reputation beyond reputeScottina06 has a reputation beyond reputeScottina06 has a reputation beyond reputeScottina06 has a reputation beyond reputeScottina06 has a reputation beyond reputeScottina06 has a reputation beyond reputeScottina06 has a reputation beyond reputeScottina06 has a reputation beyond repute
Garage
Re: Do i need a tune?

superchips or sct
__________________

__________________
SCOTT
The HARDER you work...the LUCKIER you are!
2014 REDLINE red Jeep SRT "BLOODIED\BlackOps CFR Edition" 1 of 1
2013 JKU Wrangler 10A-stormtrooper'ed, JW Speaker and more!
Previous JEEP rides-
2013 Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT-deep cherry
2006 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo-inferno red



Twitter-The_Jeep_Guy
Instagram-thejeep_guy

Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-09-2010, 09:24 PM
Long Live the Graphite Ghost

 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 13,418
Thanks: 55
Thanked 133 Times in 115 Posts
Rep Power: 542664
robpp has disabled reputation
Re: Do i need a tune?

for those mods the superchips will be plenty. besides performance, I get at least 1 more MPG than before.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-09-2010, 09:28 PM
Joe in PA's Avatar
Member
My Jeep: 2004 4.7L WJ
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Harrisburg PA
Posts: 900
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 2814
Joe in PA has disabled reputation
Re: Do i need a tune?

Do you "need" a tune? Probably not as the engine will most likely adjust to the mods. Do you "want" a tune? Only if you really want to maximize the benefits from the upgrades. Investing money in those mods without also budgeting for a tune is probably not the best way to go about things if you wish to get the most bang for the buck.
__________________
01' WJ Larado - 4.0L i6
04' WJ Freedom Edition - 4.7L HO
07' WK Limited - 5.7L Hemi
09' Mustang GT - Good For the Soul

[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-10-2010, 07:42 AM
NHWK05's Avatar
Senior Member
My Jeep: 2005 4.7L WK
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Hooksett, NH
Posts: 5,113
Thanks: 0
Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts
Rep Power: 94649
NHWK05 has a reputation beyond reputeNHWK05 has a reputation beyond reputeNHWK05 has a reputation beyond reputeNHWK05 has a reputation beyond reputeNHWK05 has a reputation beyond reputeNHWK05 has a reputation beyond reputeNHWK05 has a reputation beyond reputeNHWK05 has a reputation beyond reputeNHWK05 has a reputation beyond reputeNHWK05 has a reputation beyond reputeNHWK05 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Do i need a tune?

Thanks Guys, this is exactly what i was looking for.
__________________
-Kyle '05 Dark Khaki (PJT) WK Limited 4.7L V8, '08 Overland Front End, Custom Exhaust, 245/70/17 GY Silent Armors, Bilstein 4600s, K40 Calibre DL Radar Detector/Laser Diffuser, CB.
Wife's Jeep: '06 Jeep Liberty KJ 4x4 2.8L CRD Diesel
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-11-2010, 12:01 AM
FlyinRyan's Avatar
Senior Member
My Jeep: 2002 4.7L WJ
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Fort Myers, Florida
Posts: 2,804
Thanks: 33
Thanked 31 Times in 30 Posts
Rep Power: 88662
FlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to FlyinRyan
Re: Do i need a tune?

Do you need one? No.

If it were my truck, I wouldn't go any further with mods on Superchips....Others can and probably will disagree. They only add so much fuel in their tunes to account for users adding mild modifications. Not their fault, but that's the way tuning works.

Stick to the stock tune, knowing your personal situation right now I'd save your money and wait till you can do it all correctly.
__________________
Due to my workload, please do not PM me as I do not regularly check my PMs. Thank you :)
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-11-2010, 02:06 PM
NHWK05's Avatar
Senior Member
My Jeep: 2005 4.7L WK
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Hooksett, NH
Posts: 5,113
Thanks: 0
Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts
Rep Power: 94649
NHWK05 has a reputation beyond reputeNHWK05 has a reputation beyond reputeNHWK05 has a reputation beyond reputeNHWK05 has a reputation beyond reputeNHWK05 has a reputation beyond reputeNHWK05 has a reputation beyond reputeNHWK05 has a reputation beyond reputeNHWK05 has a reputation beyond reputeNHWK05 has a reputation beyond reputeNHWK05 has a reputation beyond reputeNHWK05 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Do i need a tune?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleepy4.7 View Post
Do you need one? No.

If it were my truck, I wouldn't go any further with mods on Superchips....Others can and probably will disagree. They only add so much fuel in their tunes to account for users adding mild modifications. Not their fault, but that's the way tuning works.

Stick to the stock tune, knowing your personal situation right now I'd save your money and wait till you can do it all correctly.

Cool. That works for me. I was actually hoping to get this answer because i did not want to install any thing else that would require more money to be spent to stop from having bad side effects.
__________________
-Kyle '05 Dark Khaki (PJT) WK Limited 4.7L V8, '08 Overland Front End, Custom Exhaust, 245/70/17 GY Silent Armors, Bilstein 4600s, K40 Calibre DL Radar Detector/Laser Diffuser, CB.
Wife's Jeep: '06 Jeep Liberty KJ 4x4 2.8L CRD Diesel
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-12-2010, 12:00 AM
FlyinRyan's Avatar
Senior Member
My Jeep: 2002 4.7L WJ
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Fort Myers, Florida
Posts: 2,804
Thanks: 33
Thanked 31 Times in 30 Posts
Rep Power: 88662
FlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to FlyinRyan
Re: Do i need a tune?

Quote:
Originally Posted by NHWK05 View Post
Cool. That works for me. I was actually hoping to get this answer because i did not want to install any thing else that would require more money to be spent to stop from having bad side effects.
I hear ya, you'll be just fine. The NGC PCM doesn't adapt as well as the older JTEC systems. After the point of intake/exhaust/TB, the next mod (be it cams, manifold, etc) should be done in conjunction with a custom tune. Necessary? Not entirely, but it'd be a very good idea at that point.

I have mostly the same modifications (plus a few custom tweaks) plus the 08 manifold, all with a stock JTEC PCM and on cold starts/warm-up operation the PCM is not all that happy.
__________________
Due to my workload, please do not PM me as I do not regularly check my PMs. Thank you :)
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04-12-2010, 11:09 PM
maxst2's Avatar
Senior Member
My Jeep: 2006 4.7L WK
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Oakland,IA
Posts: 1,475
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 198613
maxst2 has a reputation beyond reputemaxst2 has a reputation beyond reputemaxst2 has a reputation beyond reputemaxst2 has a reputation beyond reputemaxst2 has a reputation beyond reputemaxst2 has a reputation beyond reputemaxst2 has a reputation beyond reputemaxst2 has a reputation beyond reputemaxst2 has a reputation beyond reputemaxst2 has a reputation beyond reputemaxst2 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to maxst2 Send a message via MSN to maxst2 Send a message via Yahoo to maxst2 Send a message via Skype™ to maxst2
Re: Do i need a tune?

If anything...superchips can read and clear problem codes
__________________
2006 65th Anni. Grand Cherokee 4x4 in black w/ 4.7L V8
MODS:
Installed- HID 5000k kit in fogs, Superchips programmer,AFE stage 2 intake, Jet 180* Thermostat, De-badged, Flyin' Ryan Modified Throttle Body - Ported then bored out. Magnaflow muffler. Rola Roof basket, Stubby Antenna, bquiet sound dampening for the rear deck. Rigid led spots on rola rack.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 04-12-2010, 11:13 PM
FlyinRyan's Avatar
Senior Member
My Jeep: 2002 4.7L WJ
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Fort Myers, Florida
Posts: 2,804
Thanks: 33
Thanked 31 Times in 30 Posts
Rep Power: 88662
FlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to FlyinRyan
Re: Do i need a tune?

Quote:
Originally Posted by maxst2 View Post
If anything...superchips can read and clear problem codes
Not really useful here, the stock PCM is pretty resilent from throwing misfire codes even with extensive modifications.

Does SC do any datalogging on the 4.7s? I know they do on the Hemis......
__________________
Due to my workload, please do not PM me as I do not regularly check my PMs. Thank you :)
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 04-12-2010, 11:28 PM
maxst2's Avatar
Senior Member
My Jeep: 2006 4.7L WK
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Oakland,IA
Posts: 1,475
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 198613
maxst2 has a reputation beyond reputemaxst2 has a reputation beyond reputemaxst2 has a reputation beyond reputemaxst2 has a reputation beyond reputemaxst2 has a reputation beyond reputemaxst2 has a reputation beyond reputemaxst2 has a reputation beyond reputemaxst2 has a reputation beyond reputemaxst2 has a reputation beyond reputemaxst2 has a reputation beyond reputemaxst2 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to maxst2 Send a message via MSN to maxst2 Send a message via Yahoo to maxst2 Send a message via Skype™ to maxst2
Re: Do i need a tune?

ah yeah... if your putting on boost and goodies that go with it, superchips isnt good enough for sure.

But for the general stuff it'll be a handy tool to have Id think.
__________________

__________________
2006 65th Anni. Grand Cherokee 4x4 in black w/ 4.7L V8
MODS:
Installed- HID 5000k kit in fogs, Superchips programmer,AFE stage 2 intake, Jet 180* Thermostat, De-badged, Flyin' Ryan Modified Throttle Body - Ported then bored out. Magnaflow muffler. Rola Roof basket, Stubby Antenna, bquiet sound dampening for the rear deck. Rigid led spots on rola rack.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Tune-up question on a WK? iJeep Grand Cherokee - WK 91 11-09-2010 09:28 PM
custom tune........ rsone11 Grand Cherokee - WK 9 04-06-2010 10:58 PM
Tune-Up Time kevin06vino Grand Cherokee - WK 11 02-28-2010 07:28 AM
Where To Get A CMR Tune 06HemiLtd Performance Modifications 16 12-11-2009 09:03 PM
superchips tune ? ryanwk Performance Modifications 4 10-28-2009 04:15 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:18 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2012 - JeepGarage.Org
The Jeep Grand Cherokee Owners Community