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Re: "Mwoody" Finished product

It felt hotter than 89 degrees outside, but here's a quick snapshot from driving today.
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Re: "Mwoody" Finished product

awe Matty! You cant buy another bend and re-do it?
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+ more rep for a PERFECT job!
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Re: "Mwoody" Finished product

Even with the change to the flex piece, it still looks great. Good Job!
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Re: "Mwoody" Finished product

I will one day change the angles around with a new piece to get rid of the flex, but to be honest, I just haven't had the motivation. Maybe if I noticed a big performance drop off, it would be a different story. That was cruising at about 50 mph by the way. I've noticed that once I drop down to 25-30 mph there is a 2 degree difference. But only when it's in the upper 80's. I can't wait for fall!!! Come on nice cool 55 degree air! lol.
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Re: "Mwoody" Finished product

Bump for a great mod... How's the Mwoody holding up? Notice any increase in MPG? Liking the sound?
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Old 09-25-2009, 03:19 PM
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Re: "Mwoody" Finished product

Wow! What a coincidence! I was thinking about doing the exact same thing when I was installing my passenger-side ballast the other day. Shweet!!

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  • It looks like you used regular old PVC - is there any risk of using this material?
  • How thick is the PVC?
  • Why did you use the the rubber coupling instead of going with a PVC coupling and using PVC glue to keep it together? (I guess I'd be worried that one of those rubber ones would slip off therefor letting in un-filtered air - maybe I'm just being paranoid, lol)
  • Is there only one sensor to worry about incorporating? How difficult was that?
  • Do you have any concern that your filter location is too low (I know it's good to be away from the motor (heatsoak), but does rain concern you? (again, maybe I'm just paranoid because I live in FL and it rains every single day here).
I appreciate any input!!
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Also, thanks for the bump Ryan... I would have never seen this!
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I know when PVC heats up it will give off a gas that is potentially/is toxic. The downside would be this vapor chokeing out some of the oxygen as the air travels into the engine. I am not saying you shouldn't, but that it has been an idea kicked around on many auto forums and every time other alternatives have been found.

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uh...don't use PVC pipe in your engine bay please! It gives off hydrochloric acid in its gas form which can travel into your engine bay!

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Typical PVC has a softening temperature of 181F, with a maximum service temperature of 140F. Plasticised PVC is good to 221F without physical stresses, but I don't think PVC pipe from Home Depot is plasticised. Typical PVC also has a heat deflection temperature of over 170F. Translated to English this all means unless the intake air temp is over 140F, or your engine bay is consistently above 170F+, you won't have reverse polymerization. The only other way to get HCl out of PVC is with fire, and thats a no-brainer if you ask me. There are lot's of things in the car that will kill you if it's on fire, excluding the fire itself.

Of course, if you have your head inside the engine bay with the car running you have problems and the HCl is the least of your worrys.

While your information is helpful, it may not apply to an engine bay. It also appears less than credible at first glance. The misspelling of polymerization prompted me to do my own research, which is where my numbers came from. If you disagree, feel free to post up with more information with links to back it up.
Thoughts...?
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Wow! What a coincidence! I was thinking about doing the exact same thing when I was installing my passenger-side ballast the other day. Shweet!!

Questions:

  • It looks like you used regular old PVC - is there any risk of using this material?
  • How thick is the PVC?
  • Why did you use the the rubber coupling instead of going with a PVC coupling and using PVC glue to keep it together? (I guess I'd be worried that one of those rubber ones would slip off therefor letting in un-filtered air - maybe I'm just being paranoid, lol)
  • Is there only one sensor to worry about incorporating? How difficult was that?
  • Do you have any concern that your filter location is too low (I know it's good to be away from the motor (heatsoak), but does rain concern you? (again, maybe I'm just paranoid because I live in FL and it rains every single day here).
I appreciate any input!!

Haven't had to tighten anything since i put it in. Working better than I thought, the best part was when i took it in to get an oil change, the tech said that the cold air intake looks good.

I'll answer this one first.
-Yeah I used schedule 40 charlotte pipe, just make sure you shave off all of the burrs when you cut a piece.
- It's 3"diameter, i THINK o.d. not sure
- I used the rubber couplings for a cleaner look, i didn't want it to SCREAM pvc from home depot. As long as you use the couplings with a metal sleeve, they don't slip. I used a regular fernco coupling, rubber only, and it did slip a little.
- There is the intake air temp, and vacuum port. I used a piece of plastic tube that i had laying around the house as a nipple to plug the vac hose onto. I'm sure depot sells a fitting that would work. The IAT is easy, i just drilled a hole in to the pipe that was the exact diameter of the sensor and plugged it in.
- I've driven through some reeeally heavy rain, and deep puddles with no problems. If it becomes a huge concern you could slap on a dry charger to cover the filter. My filter location is tucked in to the contour of the bumper, so it gives it some cover from water.
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Haven't had to tighten anything since i put it in. Working better than I thought, the best part was when i took it in to get an oil change, the tech said that the cold air intake looks good.
That's good to know!

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I'll answer this one first.
-Yeah I used schedule 40 charlotte pipe, just make sure you shave off all of the burrs when you cut a piece.
- It's 3"diameter, i THINK o.d. not sure
- I used the rubber couplings for a cleaner look, i didn't want it to SCREAM pvc from home depot. As long as you use the couplings with a metal sleeve, they don't slip. I used a regular fernco coupling, rubber only, and it did slip a little.
- There is the intake air temp, and vacuum port. I used a piece of plastic tube that i had laying around the house as a nipple to plug the vac hose onto. I'm sure depot sells a fitting that would work. The IAT is easy, i just drilled a hole in to the pipe that was the exact diameter of the sensor and plugged it in.
- I've driven through some reeeally heavy rain, and deep puddles with no problems. If it becomes a huge concern you could slap on a dry charger to cover the filter. My filter location is tucked in to the contour of the bumper, so it gives it some cover from water.
Awesome, thanks for answering all the questions Matt!! I think I may give this a shot sometime down the road.
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Thoughts...?

PVC gives off HCL in its GAS form. Which is why you should never melt plastic, very toxic. If you are worried about the pipe getting too hot, remember this, on the inside of the pipe, it is always within a couple degrees of ambient temperature. So it has a constant flow of fresh cool air flowing through it.

I'm in the heating and ac business. We use pvc pipe for flue pipe on 90% condensing furnaces. Flue gas is VERY hot, well over 100 degrees, with no softening of plastic. PVC does not transfer heat well at all. Which is why, a flue pipe that is B-vent (double walled metal) has to be a certain distance away from combustibles like 2x4's in a house. There is no minimum distance for pvc, pvc can touch 2x4's and still pass inspection.
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