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Old 05-23-2010, 08:39 AM
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yeah, i got a 12x12 sample from 3M as well.

I am considering re-doing my ABCD's with this instead of the Neffy. Neffy isnt really having any issues except a few tiny places where looks lioke glue let goe on top of B pillars. very top last curve. and my A-pillar fill in of the handles have never been 100%, not neffy fault but it bugs me as not perfect. and i bought a set of A's real cheap.

sorry for messing up your thread..........
It's cool man, the more the merrier Rob. In fact I appreciate the extra input .Do you know if this can be used in engine bays too? Oh I should mention, the guy I'm getting it from also has silver and white carbon fibre. They are the only UK suppliers of this.
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Old 05-23-2010, 09:27 AM
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Re: 3M Carbon Fibre Vinyl

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thanks.

for the US guys I found this: http://www.drycarbonwrap.com/index.html
Hey Rob, whats the difference between this and neffy wrap?
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Old 05-23-2010, 10:42 AM
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Re: 3M Carbon Fibre Vinyl

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Hey Rob, whats the difference between this and neffy wrap?
Neffy is essentially a tissue fabric which you apply on a surface which you have sprayed with glue.

The 3m Di-Noc is a textured vinyl which is self adhesive. Its technically a V3 rating meaning that it has the strongest adhesive for a 3m vinyl but it has two adhesive glues. One is a "tack" one to position you stuff and once there you have to apply pressure to release the "final" glue which is in microcapsules.

Here is a pic of the difference close up but, if memory serves me well, the neffy is a lot shinier in the sun. Neffy on left of picture.



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Old 05-23-2010, 10:47 AM
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Re: 3M Carbon Fibre Vinyl

Wow! Great comparison. Thanks. Looking at those two pictures, it's hard to decide which looks better.
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Initially the rear step cover and a few bits on the interior. I'd like to do the area where the wipers are, but may be a bit complex for my abilities!

Di-Noc are made to work with flat surfaces and the rear step does not have the right texture for a long lasting wrap. I'd advise to use an adhesion promoter for it. For my doors I used 3m WP-3000 which is water based and can be washed off "relatively" easily if you want the part back to stock.

You are also going to want to use the tensile strength of vinyl to your advantage. You want to wrap the width of the step and then progress through the length. Its maybe counterintuitive and more complex but it will give you a strong adhesion.

The wiper area is a no go for vinyl, too deep, too complex.
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Old 05-23-2010, 11:52 AM
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Re: 3M Carbon Fibre Vinyl

The wiper area is a no go for vinyl, too deep, too complex.[/QUOTE]
Bum! Was looking forward to having that done. I'll see if anywhere locally does the hydro wrapping or whatever it's called. Thanks for the tip on the rear step. I had my reservations about how I'd get done, but now I know. Cheers.
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Re: 3M Carbon Fibre Vinyl

Good luck with the rear step, I think it'll look great with a CF finish. I'd definitely spray it with adhesion promoter first as suggested though. Don't know how well it would stick to the textured plastic on its own...

How about getting the wiper area painted to match the paintwork? Oh and you could get the mirrors done at the same time!!
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How about getting the wiper area painted to match the paintwork? Oh and you could get the mirrors done at the same time!!
That sounds like a great piece of advice. Might actually do it myself. Thanks Marty.
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Old 05-23-2010, 01:59 PM
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Hmmm....think you're onto something there Marty. I've been thinking about doing the mirrors. I'm sure I heard that you can paint the chrome covers that you can buy. But, yes painting the wiper area looks to be the thing.
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Re: 3M Carbon Fibre Vinyl

lets remember the that NiDocv is self stick. its not your TYPICAL vinyl. like the stuff scott used for his roof. that adhesive and nidoc are way different.

so i question why you say particular things are NOT for vinyl. not hating, but I heard the same for neffy. yet i have doane ABCD pillars. most dont see any flaws.

i would consider the rear step EASY for Ni Doc. not regular vinyl.

unless im missing something.......
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I'm sure I heard that you can paint the chrome covers that you can buy.
You can paint the chrome covers found on eBay for the mirrors, however I wouldn't recommend them to anyone.

The double sided tape doesn't work so you need to glue them on and they still don't fit right. I now have one mirror that can fold and one that can't due to the crappy cover.

Since I glued them on there's no way to get them off so I'd need to get two new mirrors (120/each from most scrap yards), worst mod I ever bought.
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i would consider the rear step EASY for Ni Doc. not regular vinyl.

unless im missing something.......
I'll give the rear step a go Rob as a tester, if it doesn't work it's no biggy. From what I've read on the guys site and the pics on it, it seems to pretty much go anywhere.
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