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Old 05-14-2012, 07:32 PM
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Re: Paddle Shifter Mod

dude, you're putting a WK2 SRT8 wheel on to a WK ??

oh man, i REALLY would like to see this actually become reality. Definately worth bringing this thread up from the dead
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Old 05-14-2012, 08:35 PM
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Re: Paddle Shifter Mod

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dude, you're putting a WK2 SRT8 wheel on to a WK ??
Yup! Mapping out the connections as we speak.

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oh man, i REALLY would like to see this actually become reality. Definately worth bringing this thread up from the dead
One way or another it's going to be a reality. I just hope it's rather easy vs hard and expensive. Either way it's going to be a Kick-ass mod.

Both Clocksprings have 12 pass through connections, so we are golden there.

Here is what the 05 has in no particular order:

4 Driver Squib circuits= dual stage drivers airbag system (Squib 1 and 2, dual lines each)
3 S/C circuits = cruise control buttons
1 empty circuit space in the 05's
2 Horn circuits
2 Radio control MUX circuits

I will have to test the resistance stepping on the MUX circuits as well as the S/C circuits and others to see if it matches the 05 circuits resistance. If it is the same then we are golden. If not, time to source some parts. No worries though I got the hookup on that.

Looks like once I have the 2012 diagram tomorrow me and my Ohmmeter are going to be putting in some quality time.
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Old 05-14-2012, 08:42 PM
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Re: Paddle Shifter Mod

rock on... good luck!

how much did you pay for the wheel?
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Old 05-14-2012, 08:46 PM
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I got a sweet deal at 400 shipped.
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Old 05-14-2012, 09:06 PM
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I wish you luck in getting it to work right!! Thats a badass mod if it all works
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Old 05-15-2012, 05:10 AM
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Re: Paddle Shifter Mod

congrats james awesome!!

have you buy the wk2 srt wheel with the airbag and this connector well fitt?

about the paddle shifter i have make the same mod on my 300c with the harness from plcman, when we have 2 pins empty this would be great and can work!!

you can order the cable kit here

http://www.wlsmithelectronics.com/pa...f4fb2298481153


this mod are awesome.........and with the sharadon stage 3 tranny just perfect:-)
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Old 05-15-2012, 11:01 AM
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Re: Paddle Shifter Mod

Thanks Marco and Matt!

Ideas and theories are still evolving.

As I was digging more into the 2005 wiring I have discovered that I do not even need to mess with the shifter module or the shifter itself. I just need to tap into the autostick sense circuit at the PCM/TCM (as it is combined in the 05) and supply it with the proper voltage to get the desired response. Makes it way easier! Should be able to do this with 1 pin through the clock spring as it already has a voltage feed. I just need the proper voltage out to the PCM/TCM.

The AutoStick Switch is located in the Shift Lever Assembly (SLA). The gear requested by the AutoStick selection is then sent over the AutoStick Up/Down sense circuit to the PCM to engage the requested gear. Normal AutoStick
voltages are: Down = 0.71 to 1.11 volts, Up = 2.02 to 2.41 volts.


On a 2005 JGC PCM (C3) pin 27 is the autostick sense circuit - T5 20gauge DG/YL wire. Put the correct voltage to this circuit and we have the ability to shift.

I should put this in there as a disclaimer: Idea's are still evolving and being tested. I will do a full write up once completed and functional.

Remember this is on a 2005 JGC 5.7L HEMI with QD2 so check your wiring diagrams first as you are messing with VERY expensive parts (clock spring, PCM/TCM, SLA and Transmission to name a few)! I am doing this to mine with the info I have for my Jeep. If you choose to do this also please double check all your and my info as your Jeep may be different.

I am not responsible for you turning your Jeep in a Lawn Ornament!

Anyone have a 2012 SRT8 Service Manual so I can cross reference circuits, signals and voltages for the paddles and other steering wheel controls?
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Old 05-15-2012, 06:55 PM
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Re: Paddle Shifter Mod

The 2005 is completely mapped out.

Now I need to find the 2012 SRT8 info and map that. I made a thread on the info needed.
http://jeepgarage.org/showthread.php?t=42175

I'll be hunting down more data tomorrow.
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Old 05-15-2012, 07:08 PM
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Re: Paddle Shifter Mod

This is very cool, I hope you get it worked out,and for those that don't have audio controls or care about getting the paddles to work,an even easier job!
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Old 05-15-2012, 10:11 PM
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so wait, did we ever get the paddle shift mod mapped out for the wk's?

I'm gonna be glued to this thread
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Old 05-15-2012, 10:37 PM
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Re: Paddle Shifter Mod

I have mapped the 05 and the 12 and am currently lining up the circuits.

Many Circuits are named the same they are just in different pin locations so it is going to require a rewire of the 12 wheel to work with the 05. As of right now it is looking very promising.

The paddles will require a new circuit that passes through the 05 clockspring, but this isn't an issue as there is an open spot. This wire will then feed a regulated voltage to the C3 PCM connection PIN 27 that will allow control of the autostick.

Normal AutoStick voltages are: Down = 0.71 to 1.11 volts, Up = 2.02 to 2.41 volts

All Radio MUX, Cruise Controls and the Dual Stage Driver Air Bag Squibs will work.

The things I'm not so sure about right now are the:
Heated Wheel
Voice recognition
Phone button
Up Arrow
Down Arrow
Right Arrow
Back button
Mode button

These are all controlled by a COM-LIN BUS SCM circuit - 1 C3 D507 22g BK in the 6way connection.
For this I will have to check the stepped voltages and their corresponding funtions. If I can get the voltages to match up with what the 05 wants to see I may be able to activate them or use them for another purpose. If not they will be disabled.

One thing I know I will not be able to get working is the adaptive cruise as we have no front radar and the circuitry for that system is nuts.

I will be able to retain all current 05 functions and have functional paddle shifters. Which will accomplish my main goal.

Huge thanks to Rob for the Mopar connector site!

More work to do Stay tuned!
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Re: Paddle Shifter Mod

will you have/get true auto-stick control from this(my '05 doesnt have it ) Or does the stage 3 sheridan you run do that?
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