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Re: 14' Cherokee Trailhawk vs 14' Grand Cherokee for off roading

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I think it's safe to say a stock XJ couldn't hang.

How about you bumpinjeep?
Dude, that's a Jeep commercial, of course they are going to make it look like it can go anywhere. If those were the typical obstacles then a XJ will easily go through that. No problem. Then again, it does depend on the driver, you and I can probably find a good line, but someone who hasn't taken a vehicle off road could get stuck in a Unimog.
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Dude, that's a Jeep commercial, of course they are going to make it look like it can go anywhere. If those were the typical obstacles then a XJ will easily go through that. No problem. Then again, it does depend on the driver, you and I can probably find a good line, but someone who hasn't taken a vehicle off road could get stuck in a Unimog.
Yep, great commercial. Very impressive. Ever been up hells gate? I have several times. I'm impressed. We're not talking typical obstacles. We're talking about what's more capable. If we need to water down the obstacles to "typical" so the XJ can hang, then I'd say the 14 trail hawk is more capable in stock trim, how about you?

Same driver. Same obstacle - hells gate. Lets eliminate as many variables as possible.
XJ vs. 14 cherokee trail hawk.

Would a stock XJ make it up hells gate???

No, because you can't make a run at it. As soon as the XJ lost traction it would be game over. The driver would be forced to pull cable.
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Re: 14' Cherokee Trailhawk vs 14' Grand Cherokee for off roading

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Yep, great commercial. Very impressive. Ever been up hells gate? I have several times. I'm impressed. We're not talking typical obstacles. We're talking about what's more capable. If we need to water down the obstacles to "typical" so the XJ can hang, then I'd say the 14 trail hawk is more capable in stock trim, how about you?

Same driver. Same obstacle - hells gate. Lets eliminate as many variables as possible.
XJ vs. 14 cherokee trail hawk.

Would a stock XJ make it up hells gate???

No, because you can't make a run at it. As soon as the XJ lost traction it would be game over. The driver would be forced to pull cable.
I've never taken any of my Jeeps to Hell's Gate. However I haven't seen anything in that video you posted that a XJ wouldn't be able to do.
Stock for stock, the XJ will go places the tall dart wont.

Jeep XJ Offroad - YouTube
Stock Jeep XJ Cherokee Quarry.wmv - YouTube
Stock Jeep Cherokee and Modified Toyota 4Runner Rockhampton Water Tower.wmv - YouTube

Also, Jeep should "trail rate" this thing too
Random Subaru Forester Off Road Clips - YouTube
Subaru Forester, Hummer Centrum - YouTube

One thing to consider is that neither one of us has seen what the new cherokee can do outside of a official Jeep commerical. So how about we revisit this conversation in like 6 months when it comes out and people have taken it on some real trails?
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[QUOTE="bumpinjeep;877435"]

I've never taken any of my Jeeps to Hell's Gate. However I haven't seen anything in that video you posted that a XJ wouldn't be able to do.
Stock for stock, the XJ will go places the tall dart wont. [\QUOTE]

So your saying an XJ would be able to go up hells gate without lockers once it had a tire in the air? Sorry your wrong. I like the XJ too, owned several. But I'm realistic too.

Jeep XJ Offroad - YouTube
Stock Jeep XJ Cherokee Quarry.wmv - YouTube
Stock Jeep Cherokee and Modified Toyota 4Runner Rockhampton Water Tower.wmv - YouTube

Also, Jeep should "trail rate" this thing too
Random Subaru Forester Off Road Clips - YouTube
Subaru Forester, Hummer Centrum - YouTube
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One thing to consider is that neither one of us has seen what the new cherokee can do outside of a official Jeep commerical. So how about we revisit this conversation in like 6 months when it comes out and people have taken it on some real trails?
Sure we can do that, but the XJ still won't have lockers, and ill still be right.

The videos you posted were nonsense and in no way show anything the 14 trail hawk wouldn't be capable of traversing. Now if you had posted a video of a stock XJ going up hells gate I'd be wrong.
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I would like to see the xj go up against the grand cherokee wk2 simply because of the 2 are so different. While I agree that without lockers the xj will lose traction completely in one axle if it pops a tire, my question is how much would it pop a tire in the air seeing as it has 2 solid axles. These pictures are taken from climbing a rock in my yard, without some form of traction control it would have gotten no where, but in rock mode it did just fine, although as you can see one of the rear tires is up in the air...
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Re: 14' Cherokee Trailhawk vs 14' Grand Cherokee for off roading

Jeep puts all of their vehicles through some of the best known trails to back up the "Trail Rated" badge. Not a marketing ploy.

A 4x4 GC with a quadra lift suspension is much more capable than a Cherokee TH in hard situations... but it costs a lot more.

Recent magazines took Cherokee THs on a MOAB trail. They all were impressed with the capability but they all said the JK that was leading the pack was the real vehicle for this terrain.
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