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Old 05-21-2014, 06:18 AM
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I am all for EVERYONE being retested every 2-3 years or so.
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Re: '14 Plows through house

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Uh, I'm not sure what your looking at, but the 75+ group is over-represented in fatal accidents compared to all the other age groups except for younger ones based on your chart. The 75+ group makes up 6.5% of the driving population, but they account for 7.9% of fatalities. The younger groups you would expect it from due to inexperience, but the elderly are there because of a decrease in their physical abilities. I'm sure if you look at people 80+ it's far worse.
Take another look at the data. The last two columns show overall accident rates, which are normalized for the number of drivers in each age group. It clearly shows that the older the driver, the less likely they are to be involved in an accident. For example, the data show that drivers 35-44 are twice as likely to have an accident compared with those over 75. The same trend is true for fatal accidents until the oldest age group, but that exception is confounded by the fact that really old people are less likely to survive a fatal accident. In any case, the OP's point for a 68 yo woman is vindicated by the data.
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Take another look at the data. The last two columns show overall accident rates, which are normalized for the number of drivers in each age group. It clearly shows that the older the driver, the less likely they are to be involved in an accident. For example, the data show that drivers 35-44 are twice as likely to have an accident compared with those over 75. The same trend is true for fatal accidents until the oldest age group, but that exception is confounded by the fact that really old people are less likely to survive a fatal accident. In any case, the OP's point for a 68 yo woman is vindicated by the data.
If you look at the 'Fatal' heading in the last two columns you spoke of the 75+ are clearly involved in the most fatal car accidents per 100,000. The last column overall accidents some reason is out of 100. I'm not sure why but I wouldn't want to base any hard conclusions on that base. What makes the chart even more distributing is that older people like 75+ don't drive nearly as much as the other age groups since many are retired or simply don't have the active life style as the other groups. So if they factored into the chart miles driven it would look really bad.

BTW The OP simply brought the accident to the attention of the forum I don't think he/she got involved in whether age had anything to do with it. I also responded to someone who mentioned age and re-testing and pointed out the women was only 68 so I don't think that plays a role here. I'm really talking about people north of 80.

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I agree about older people taking a new driving test, can't tell you how many times I'm on the hwy, pkwy and there's a car doing 30mph and it's always a person well on in years. but this woman was only 68 years young.
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Re: '14 Plows through house

Jacko, unfortunately it's not only teens texting, this applies to many young & middle aged drivers. Perhaps, the aged are more focused & we should all get a reality check before accusing certain age groups....


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Old 05-21-2014, 10:18 AM
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I am thinking impairment as the cops first suspected but guess we'll have to wait to see what the test results say.

Cops lie all day every day. If the cops say impairment that makes me think she must've been sober.


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Cops lie all day every day. If the cops say impairment that makes me think she must've been sober.
I'd believe a cop's story over someone who just drove through a house, killing & injuring people...all while having a 3 yr old sitting on their lap.

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Cops lie all day every day. If the cops say impairment that makes me think she must've been sober.


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Cops do not lie all day every day. If the cops say impairment was the cause that makes me think they saw some kind of signs that she wasn't sober.

No cop is going to lie about something that a blood test could prove one way or the other so easily. One simple blood test could prove she was 100% sober or could prove she was driving drunk or driving with drugs in her system.
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Trust me when I tell you, cops lie like the rest of society. And what makes it so bad is most people are just like the previous poster. If a cops says it they naively believe it. Blood tests are one thing. She very well may have been intoxicated and deserve jail time. After all, she killed someone. I'm not defending the driver, she doesn't deserve it. What I'm saying is police officers have blatantly lied about me before. I'm sure I'm not the only one.I know from experience. Cops lie. That fact can't be debated.


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How do you guys know the alleged impairment is what caused the issue? Heck with the recent Jeep problems it wouldn't surprise me to hear they found grease all over her front breaks.
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'14 Plows through house

"Cops do not lie all day every day"

What exactly do you base that claim on? And how would you know the level of honesty in each and every officer? To say what you did shows how people think. They think police officers are some shining beacon of truth that could not and would not ever be dishonest under any circumstances.

Anyone who blindly thinks the police would never lie or harm someone are sadly mistaken. It happens every day. Most officers are good people. But there are plenty that are terrible human beings who couldn't tell the difference between the truth and a bologna sandwich.

As for this situation, i feel sorry for the family that is innocent and has to deal with the loss of a loved one. More proof that life isn't fair. Moreover, life's a bitch.


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"cops lie like the rest of society"

There is the key, all facets of society contain liars- Cops, criminals, lawyers, teachers, doctors, parents, children, politicians. . .

. . .but none of them should be grouped as a whole to say they lie all day every day.


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"cops lie like the rest of society"

There is the key, all facets of society contain liars- Cops, criminals, lawyers, teachers, doctors, parents, children, politicians. . .

. . .but none of them should be grouped as a whole to say they lie all day every day.


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I didn't say they all lie. In fact I said most of them are good people.

RTFP.

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