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Woman Jailed After Car Plows Through Washington House







A 68-year-old woman was jailed but later released Saturday after she plowed an SUV through a house in Washington, killing her partner and injuring her daughter and son-in-law, police said.
The woman was booked on one count of vehicular homicide and two counts of vehicular assault, but released within hours pending an investigation, King County Sgt. DB Gates told NBC affiliate King 5.




The Jeep the woman was driving shot through the lakeside home on Friday night, killing a 70-year-old man inside and critically injuring the woman's daughter and son-in-law, who were outside on the deck.
Even though the vehicle ended up partially submerged into Lake Sammamish, the woman and her 3-year-old grandson in the SUV were uninjured.


Detectives found probable cause of impairment after the accident, but Gates said toxicology reports were still pending, King 5 reported.
One woman was detained on vehicular homicide and assault counts on Saturday, according to King County Jail Records. That woman was detained at 1:43 a.m. Saturday and released at 7:56 p.m., records show.
Gates said investigators are trying to reconstruct what caused the fatal accident.


Neighbor Kevin Connelly told King 5 that the woman was "just moving the car" when it "shot forward through the house."
— Elisha Fieldstadt
 
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#8 ·
It’s always good to know I’m not the only one who thinks this way.

Sounds like her accelerator and brake pedal got swapped by someone. Unfortunately this has now ended and ruined lives.
 
#9 ·
I didn't make that Jeep to destroy and kill. :(
 
#18 ·
Lol, I'm going to the lake to fish. Ill see if I can spot that house and take a pic.

Also, another reason why old people shouldn't be driving, or at least be required to take a yearly driving test.

Or she shouldn't have left the kitchen.
I agree. Especially old women... almost got hit by old ladies in 3 different locations, timing, and ladies!

But, again there are some old men who can't drive too. I just feel like they sure could easily cause the accidents if other people didn't pay attention to avoid the accident like i did. Thats scary.

I sure feel bad for 68 yrs old lady... her live won't be same at all. Poor her family too.
 
#21 ·
Why all the old people hating? They are not the most likely to crash their car.
 

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#24 ·
This thread started with the story of a 68 year old woman, and the old folks bashing started. I agree drivers in their upper 70's and 80's should be retested. I'm 64, and willing to take a test anytime. Kids in their teen's and twenty's, texting and partying are the real menace. I'd rather be slowed down by an elderly driver than broadsided by some dumbass kid that thinks he, or she, can fly down the road, "multitasking", looking at their keyboard. And back to the original post, we really don't know what happened. I posted a link to the carwash stories, and no one really knows what the actual cause to those "accidents" was yet either.
 
#25 ·
I am all for EVERYONE being retested every 2-3 years or so.
 
#40 ·
I would tend to agree if the tests were conducted like those passive roadside emissions monitoring. Otherwise, I would question the validity.

  • Texting while driving. Permanent fail and removal from gene pool.
  • Dialing phone while driving, permanent fail.
  • Sleeping in a traffic lane, 10 mph below surrounding traffic, fail.
  • Wandering across traffic lanes because on the damn phone, driving with head cranked over so far you can't see because onna damn phone, etc. Permanent fail and removal from gene pool.
  • Wandering all over the road or ignoring the green traffic signal because too busy stuffing face, fail.
Older geezers do have to provide eye exam results in some states... don't recall what age hearing tests come into play. Passed the geezer eye tests, and would pass the hearing test as long as not administered by the missus.
 
#37 ·
It's a given that texting is a very serious problem for everyone, but worse in teens since they aren't that experienced on the road to begin with and can't react as quickly or as 'instinctively' as a more experienced driver. Teens driving is very dangerous, but they passed their test and you could I guess require more frequent testing, but I don't know how feasible this is.

The senior question is not really debatable. You can find piles of data, backing up that once a person is well into their years, I'm talking about 75-80 the accident rate per mile is off the chart. Far worse than any other age group. The chart attached earlier shows the fatal accident rate, but it's not even on an even playing field. Seniors upwards of 75 drive far less then all the other age groups. They pretty much go locally to the church, post office etc. They probably drive 1/10 of what the average driver does. If you put that into the equation, per mile they are an extremely dangerous group. Kinda makes me glad I'm in a GC.
 
#32 ·
Trust me when I tell you, cops lie like the rest of society. And what makes it so bad is most people are just like the previous poster. If a cops says it they naively believe it. Blood tests are one thing. She very well may have been intoxicated and deserve jail time. After all, she killed someone. I'm not defending the driver, she doesn't deserve it. What I'm saying is police officers have blatantly lied about me before. I'm sure I'm not the only one.I know from experience. Cops lie. That fact can't be debated.


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#34 · (Edited)
"Cops do not lie all day every day"

What exactly do you base that claim on? And how would you know the level of honesty in each and every officer? To say what you did shows how people think. They think police officers are some shining beacon of truth that could not and would not ever be dishonest under any circumstances.

Anyone who blindly thinks the police would never lie or harm someone are sadly mistaken. It happens every day. Most officers are good people. But there are plenty that are terrible human beings who couldn't tell the difference between the truth and a bologna sandwich.

As for this situation, i feel sorry for the family that is innocent and has to deal with the loss of a loved one. More proof that life isn't fair. Moreover, life's a bitch.


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#38 ·
"Cops do not lie all day every day"

What exactly do you base that claim on? And how would you know the level of honesty in each and every officer? To say what you did shows how people think. They think police officers are some shining beacon of truth that could not and would not ever be dishonest under any circumstances.

Anyone who blindly thinks the police would never lie or harm someone are sadly mistaken. It happens every day. Most officers are good people. But there are plenty that are terrible human beings who couldn't tell the difference between the truth and a bologna sandwich.
I was just trying to make the point that they are going to test this lady's blood and see what she was on (or prove she was sober). So this would be a hard situation for an officer to lie because it will be quickly proven wrong.

But anyway I totally hijacked this thread and I apologize....
 
#35 ·
"cops lie like the rest of society"

There is the key, all facets of society contain liars- Cops, criminals, lawyers, teachers, doctors, parents, children, politicians. . .

. . .but none of them should be grouped as a whole to say they lie all day every day.


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#39 ·
Greetings,

The truth of the matter is all age groups are guilty of something when it comes to a vehicle accident. The data that Jacko presented supports that. Their is plenty of data to be found on web today. To start blaming any group is not right. Technology and society does a number on us, as well as, other factors that we might not be privy to. It has differently changed our driving habits from being that safe driver that we are taught at the beginning.

The proper thing to combat this effect is make sure through the use of public announcements that a reality check should be given. A simple questionnaire that could be in a newspaper, on the web, a trailer at a movie theater, at a sporting event...etc. The questions designed for drivers as self check list to see if they are up to par and make sure the questions are for all age groups. At the end of the questionnaire a statement that by such and such year if the number of accidents is not severely reduced, then look forward for some sort of mandatory retesting.

Yes, today we live in age of instant access to communications in various forms. The other party sending out the request for information in form a phone call, a text message and email for example cannot wait for answer. As a result, those you have to respond in a vehicle while driving, in return must get out an answer because the end result of waiting to longer could lead to some negative effect. The cause and effect of this process could and does lead to some sort of accidents.

When comes to our beloved senior citizens, the children, their friends and even maybe their ministers should watch and encourage those who can not drive anymore to hang up the car keys with honor. I know of senior citizens in their late years that drive the pants of many and sharp like anything. Their are senior citizens who drive patiently and cautious on the roads and have a fine driving record at their age. The rookie drives out their today should take lessons from them.

Do not even get me started with the so called showoff class of drivers (Car A) that have no respect for their fellow drives on the road. I wonder if their is any statistics of the number of near misses they cause or the typical scenario of Car B colliding into Car C. Or not letting a person cross the street.

So instead of bashing one another again, we should devote some effort to helping end this problem.

Best for now.:)
 
#46 ·
Ya know, if a monkey got behind the wheel (who never had driven lessons, LOL)



..and drove down main street he/she still won't be the most dangerous demo because they're just aren't that many monkeys driven down main street putting alot of miles behind them. The chart does not take into account miles driven or accident per mile driven, but the fact that the 75+ group doesn't show well is all the worst since they just don't drive that much or very far.

This is not about 60 year olds, check my numerous posts defending that age group, this is about people much older that lost physical/mental ability and should be re-tested.
 
#47 ·
Earlier in this thread a few comments like: "another reason why old people shouldn't be driving" and "I agree. Especially old women..." implied that the driver in this unfortunate incident was incompetent to drive by virtue of her age. Someone then refuted that implication by posting a link to some relevant accident rates. After reading that source, I noted that the driver in this case is in an age group that is less likely to be involved in accidents than other age groups.

It's a separate issue whether drivers older than the woman in this story have fewer accidents simply because they drive infrequently. I can't comment on the accident rates for chimpanzees, but it is true that the human data show that accidents per distance driven decline steadily with age, before reversing slightly for the oldest age group. But it is also true that the accident rate for drivers over 80 has dropped dramatically in recent years. Take a look at this report of a recent study: "Accident rates improving for older drivers"
 
#48 ·
What I've noticed on this thread is an abundance of unfounded prejudice. Common sense and logic very rarely triumph over this sort of thinking.
 
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