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Re: '14 - UConnect Access Trial Expiration and Renewal Cost

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Waze is 100% more accurate...and free with a cell phone you already pay for.

I will likely renew sirius, but with no traffic. Uconnect services for $20 a month? No way.
I still have several months of Sirius/xm and uconnect left, but are you saying there's two different price points for Sirius/ xm? One with traffic and one without?

I know uconnect has travel link; weather, fuel prices, etc ( which I will not be renewing), but Traffic is part of Sirius. Confirm?

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Old 02-21-2014, 02:38 PM
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Re: '14 - UConnect Access Trial Expiration and Renewal Cost

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I guess I'm in the minority, but with the one year anniversary of my GC purchase and therefore the end of my free trials coming up next week I've decided to renew my UConnect subscription but not Sirius/XM.

In doing my research before I ever purchased my GC I knew I'd only get one year free of both UConnect and Sirius/XM service - and I still bought the Jeep over any other brand. One reason I bought the latest and greatest Jeep was to move up from my seven year old SUV to one with all the "gadgets" and tech - which I love. So, I'll renew UConnect to have all the gadgets and tech at my disposal. What I've found with Sirius, however, is that: A.) The sound is terrible compared to HD radio or streaming via BT; B.) When I first started subscribing to XM radio years ago they looked me right in the eye and promised "no advertising, ever" - promise broken; C.) As someone in another thread mentioned, I don't want the hassle of having to call Sirius every 5 months to beg for the cheap plan; pay them via money order so they never get ahold of my credit card number; etc. Plus, I don't care to subsidize Howard Stern's salary.

I've been impressed thus far with Chrysler's commitment to releasing updates to the UConnect system, and I've been very happy with mine (never had a buggy back-up image with 13.48.3, either.) I imagine they'll continue releasing updates, which will only improve upon the UConnect system.
You may already know this, but just in case ... You do not need a subscription for all the uConnect features. The subscription is only for "uConnect Access" which offers very little in the way of features.


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Re: '14 - UConnect Access Trial Expiration and Renewal Cost

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I still have several months of Sirius/xm and uconnect left, but are you saying there's two different price points for Sirius/ xm? One with traffic and one without?

I know uconnect has travel link; weather, fuel prices, etc ( which I will not be renewing), but Traffic is part of Sirius. Confirm?

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Re: '14 - UConnect Access Trial Expiration and Renewal Cost

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You may already know this, but just in case ... You do not need a subscription for all the uConnect features. The subscription is only for "uConnect Access" which offers very little in the way of features.
Yes, I'm aware of that, Bill. As I've already spent tens of thousands of dollars to purchase this Jeep, however, all I'm saying is that it's my decision to spend another $20/month for the tech I want. I could have saved far more money by not buying a new Jeep in the first place. It's a decision we all have to make at the one year anniversary of our Jeep GC purchase; I say to each his own whether you renew UConnect or not - drive what you like and like what you drive!
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Re: '14 - UConnect Access Trial Expiration and Renewal Cost

I have a '14 Cherokee and so far U-connect is worthless except the possibility of getting Wi Fi access if needed for the extra fee.
I thought that I read some where that Sirius XM Satellite Radio offers just the music end for $10 month. Travel Link for $4 month. That would make it worth while.
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Re: '14 - UConnect Access Trial Expiration and Renewal Cost

$20/month is ludicrous. I'm glad I never bothered to even activate the trial.
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Re: '14 - UConnect Access Trial Expiration and Renewal Cost

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I can't give you the numbers from my company as they are not public right now, but the take rate is strong enough to support the business. Otherwise, there'd be no business. Same thing for OnStar -- which is very profitable.



And personally, I won't pay for it either. I don't use it enough. However, there are enough people who either (1) do use it enough or (2) want the "cool" factor that it supports the current telematics industry. Telematics is not a money loser right now, so there are definitely enough people paying for these services.

Look at it this way...when "smartphones" started showing up, I heard ALL of these same arguments. People will get bored with them. The wow factor will wear off. They won't really use all the features. Etc. Etc. Etc. Didn't happen. People buy the things because...well, I don't even know why. Most people who have smartphones don't even know how to use them in any meaningful way. They're just "must haves." Right now, vehicle telematics and content such as this is in the "smartphone infancy" stage. As more features pop up...it will become more and more of a "must have" to have these things built into the car instead of as an accessory--in peoples' minds. That's marketing. That's what (fortunately or unfortunately) works.
I'm sorry but a smartphone to someone who never had one is a far different thing than providing a couple applications that someone already has and are paid for on their smartphone.

My smartphone does all manner of things my feature phone did not. Further the only overlap would have been calling someone but a redundancy did not exist because my feature phone got tossed in a drawer where it also no longer represented a monthly bill. With this on the other hand I have someone offering me a service that does what I'm already paying for but not nearly as well while trying to get me to pay twice for the same thing I already have and am already paying for.

That last part is meaningful because the service might be more valuable to me if it actually provided something I don't already have. But it doesn't. If I want to set up a hotspot I can do it on my phone with data I'm already paying for. If I want to stream music I can do it on my phone with data that I'm already paying for and with better and more fully featured apps. If I want gas prices I can get them on my phone with an app that is again better and more fully featured and faster to boot. I could go on here but the important point is that the 20 bucks gives me nothing I don't already have and in most cases is worse at doing it than what I'm already paying for. My smartphone on the other hand gave my all kind of stuff I didn't have and wasn't paying for already. Big difference.

I do recognize that the boy wonders sell these things because they continue to exist. Grotesque but true. That doesn't mean I have to drink the coolaid though, they can get someone else to pay for the caviar and champagne on the corporate jet. Not this old man.
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I have a '14 Cherokee and so far U-connect is worthless except the possibility of getting Wi Fi access if needed for the extra fee.
I thought that I read some where that Sirius XM Satellite Radio offers just the music end for $10 month. Travel Link for $4 month. That would make it worth while.
Just remember the WiFi is only 3G. As for the Sirius music:
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I'm sorry but a smartphone to someone who never had one is a far different thing than providing a couple applications that someone already has and are paid for on their smartphone. My smartphone does all manner of things my feature phone did not. Further the only overlap would have been calling someone but a redundancy did not exist because my feature phone got tossed in a drawer where it also no longer represented a monthly bill. With this on the other hand I have someone offering me a service that does what I'm already paying for but not nearly as well while trying to get me to pay twice for the same thing I already have and am already paying for. That last part is meaningful because the service might be more valuable to me if it actually provided something I don't already have. But it doesn't. If I want to set up a hotspot I can do it on my phone with data I'm already paying for. If I want to stream music I can do it on my phone with data that I'm already paying for and with better and more fully featured apps. If I want gas prices I can get them on my phone with an app that is again better and more fully featured and faster to boot. I could go on here but the important point is that the 20 bucks gives me nothing I don't already have and in most cases is worse at doing it than what I'm already paying for. My smartphone on the other hand gave my all kind of stuff I didn't have and wasn't paying for already. Big difference. I do recognize that the boy wonders sell these things because they continue to exist. Grotesque but true. That doesn't mean I have to drink the coolaid though, they can get someone else to pay for the caviar and champagne on the corporate jet. Not this old man.
All VERY valid points. All very valid points I would tend to agree with. However, none are valid for the AVERAGE consumer, which...unfortunately...has the IQ of a carrot.

I suspect that as time goes by what will be done is to create better seamless integration of communications devices (phones, etc) with vehicles. However, right now there's a large segment of the population that doesn't want to integrate their phone with the vehicle. There's a "hassle" element involved...to them. Even Ford is re-thinking their strategy of using the existing phone of the user for communications due to this type of feedback.
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Yes, I'm aware of that, Bill. As I've already spent tens of thousands of dollars to purchase this Jeep, however, all I'm saying is that it's my decision to spend another $20/month for the tech I want. I could have saved far more money by not buying a new Jeep in the first place. It's a decision we all have to make at the one year anniversary of our Jeep GC purchase; I say to each his own whether you renew UConnect or not - drive what you like and like what you drive!
I wasn't trying to change your mind. I just remember from other threads where some folks weren't differentiating between the 2.


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Re: '14 - UConnect Access Trial Expiration and Renewal Cost

My take on the $20 a month fee is I probably will decline it. So far the only app I have used more than once is the mobile uconnect app to start my car, I have not enabled any of the new "music" apps that instead of using the Uconnect cell connection would actually use my mobile phones connection for data streaming. Now if Uconnect apps would instead use it's data plan instead of my mobile device I would reconsider it or if they had tiered pricing per features again I would reconsider.

Sirius/XM I like all the different channels and choices which for the most part is commercial free but I am starting to really grow disappointed in the sound quality they used to be CD quality but lately I consider the quality of most of the channels I listen to comparable to AM radio (at a lesser volume level).
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Re: '14 - UConnect Access Trial Expiration and Renewal Cost

Apple makes billions selling devices for people who don't like computers. That is their proper business model.

Today I spend over $300/mo on telecommunications of all kinds but only my smartphone (under $50/mo for "unlimited") has a plan limited to that particular device. Even then it is not just a phone but a multifunction tool.

True I am a telecommuter so redundancy is essential since I live in Florida where everything from phones to power goes down at least once a year and I have a need to have full connectivity anytime/anywhere.

Have said it before that the car of the future will just have and amp, speakers, and an antenna. Of course for this to work the manufacturers need to agree on a common docking station, one that can be used for home, car, and work.

I have a lot of devices, future archaeologists will be able to date my house closely from the CAT 5 wiring. We have reached a peak of connectivity, now the issue is the proper mix of devices to use it. While I still have towers and big monitors, more and more I am using tablets to drive them.

Recently I bought a Crossfire and it is becoming my mobile test bed. It has a good amp, speakers, etc so I dropped in a inexpensive head unit that adds Bluetooth, HFP, Pandora, and a plug for Sirius (to me Sirius has the wrong model: license is tied to a receiver, Pandora is tied to me in any vehicle or at home, that to me Sirius sounds like an old AM radio is incidental).

Is new enough to have OBD-II so for short trips I have a CD mount for my SmartPhone and can use Torque to display engine parameters, have 10GB of music (no commercials) on a SD card, and HFP is a button press away. Am in the process of putting the same capability (sans OBD since predates) in a 90 Reatta.

For longer jaunts I built a dock for a Toshiba Encore with an 8" display for the same plus an independent Sat-Nav that clips on the glove box. Surfing is easier with the larger display and has Windows 8.1 with access to many tools I use. I can also tuck a MiFi device that can handle up to 5 devices using WPA2 almost anywhere.

And then the same setup is in my RV if I go camping somewhere. And this is just the tip.

Point I am making is that the model today is designed either for a single person with one car who lives in it. Or the .001% who have other people to handle money. Those few of us who have families or multiple cars and work for a living need something different.

For me to have a pay monthly plan tied to a specific vehicle is ludicrous.
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