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14 vs 15 Summit ?????

You can get brand new summits for 46... (Obviously not every single option but you can definitely find them well under 50) if you're in the Mid East coast region definitely check out Koons Chrysler Jeep Dodge in VA



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You can get brand new summits for 46... (Obviously not every single option but you can definitely find them well under 50) if you're in the Mid East coast region definitely check out Koons Chrysler Jeep Dodge in VA
So your state collects zero sales tax, or dealers do not charge a doc fee or anything like that? That's why I said out the door.
I paid $47,000 for my Summit...came out to be slightly over 50k out the door. In other words, if you can get a brand new Summit for less than 50k out the door I would be very impressed by that deal. Atleast in states that charge normal sales tax. In my case it's 7%.

Edit: I forgot to add I'm talking about V8 models only sorry about that. The OP was only interested in the 8 banger.
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14 vs 15 Summit ?????

I saw them for as low as 42k, new, in California. But I'm not sure why anyone would want a Summit 4x2 Pentastar... But that's just me. Lol
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Re: 14 vs 15 Summit ?????

Well yea, but even with tax and dealer fees the difference between a used car purchase and paying tax to the dmv yourself your taking about less than 1000 dollar difference in fees from a 48k new summit or a 38k used summit. That shouldn't even be part of the consideration of a purchase.


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Re: 14 vs 15 Summit ?????

Yeah I mean it depends on the state really. I was looking into some things earlier and in my state for example a $43,000 vehicle purchased from a dealer would be $3,010 in tax for my county, plus atleast a few hundred in fees. Private party tax is $1,500 and whatever plate transfer costs. So it's a decent difference that some may consider, but in the grand scheme of things might not be a factor. There would be very few private party 2014+ grand Cherokees for sale private party anyway.
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Re: 14 vs 15 Summit ?????

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I saw them for as low as 42k, new, in California. But I'm not sure why anyone would want a Summit 4x2 Pentastar... But that's just me. Lol
It's probably not just you - running a nationwide search on cargurus returns 5X as many 4X4 inventory at the Summit trim level (around 1250 new or very low mileage). Of the ~250 4X2 Summits listed, only three were V8 and in scrolling through the pages I only saw one diesel listing. As for the 4X4s, it was surprising to learn that V6 engine inventory is more than twice that of the V8.

Anyway, I am the person whose choices would surprise you. For over a decade I drove V8 Grand Cherokees with a 4X4 drivetrain. The pre-Pentastar V6 engine was so gutless I swore I would never own anything but a V8. Thankfully I test drove one last time around and was sold - it roughly approximates the power of my old V8s with 50% better gas mileage. Living in a relatively flat, low elevation city and doing nearly all of my driving locally, I have no need for a V8 with the Pentastar being this powerful. Further, I never tow anything and rarely go offroad, so I found paying for the 4X4 (both up front and insurance) to be a waste of money for my uses. On the other hand, the luxury and tech of the Summit is something I value greatly. Lucky for me they make 4X2 V6 at the Summit trim level. After getting 13-14 miles to the gallon forever, getting around 20 MPG is so great it cannot be put into words.

I certainly don't begrudge those who max out their options though. It's their money to spend. To each his own!
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Re: 14 vs 15 Summit ?????

The vast majority of JGCs sold are equipped with the V6. I believe the distribution was posted awhile back, but I don't recall in what thread.
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Re: 14 vs 15 Summit ?????

The one thing I would recommend is driving one with air suspension and one without. I have QL and after 60k miles would never buy air suspension again. I've been looking to buy another JGCO so I've been test driving everyone that I can. The models without air suspension (quardalift) have SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER DAMPENING . QL on my 2011 and on the 2015 models is bouncy and doesn't like high speed road imperfections.

QL also can be a source of many problems.
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The one thing I would recommend is driving one with air suspension and one without. I have QL and after 60k miles would never buy air suspension again. I've been looking to buy another JGCO so I've been test driving everyone that I can. The models without air suspension (quardalift) have SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER DAMPENING . QL on my 2011 and on the 2015 models is bouncy and doesn't like high speed road imperfections.

QL also can be a source of many problems.
I'm not saying your right or wrong, but its all personal opinion. I think quadralift is very comfortable and really enjoy driving on normal roads and highways. I don't think you can even get a Summit without quadralift, well maybe the rear wheel drive versions, but no one is gonna buy that. You would have to go all the way down to a Limited model to get coil springs and 4x4.
Now from a reliability standpoint and if its a vehicle you plan on keeping for very long, then it might be something to consider. I personally have not had any quadralift issues in either my 2012 Overland or the 2014 Summit. Obviously both had low miles, but they were good systems in the time I had them. A friend at work had air suspension issues on his land rover and it was not cheap to fix. I think the compressor went out.
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Re: 14 vs 15 Summit ?????

I also enjoy the QL, both for the ride and the versatility. While I have had an issue (covered by my MaxCare extended service contract) I don't feel a need for a non-air suspension in my next JGC.
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The vast majority of JGCs sold are equipped with the V6. I believe the distribution was posted awhile back, but I don't recall in what thread.
This is interesting, thanks. I wonder how it compares by trim - there's presumably a higher ratio of V8 / diesel at higher trim levels and 4X4s - as well as how the ratio compares today to pre-Pentastar. No need to answer, just typing out loud...I'll do some digging around on my own if so compelled.
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Re: 14 vs 15 Summit ?????

^ Understood. But for grins ... go drive one without QL and take it down a road that isn't that smooth. Honestly there's a night and day difference between the two but you have to know what you are feeling for. Most test drives are a fairy tail unless you are serious about what you are evaluating.

A simple search for quadra lift + bouncy will yield dozens of thread about the topic. I've driven mine from coast to coast and its a great vehicle but I won't be getting another QL equipped JGC. Maybe there's just a couple hundred of us that like to complain about it ha ha.
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