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Old 05-22-2015, 10:35 AM
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Re: 15 Overland gremlins

I find it strange that the other dealers don't want the (lucrative) after sales business even though you did not purchase your vehicle from them.

Good job on narrowing it down to the brake pedal.

Also, I'd be very afraid of a service manager's attitude like the one demonstrated here.

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Re: 15 Overland gremlins

HAPPY DAY Well after some more investigation this morning the Gremlins have been found and remedied. Went back in under dash this morning for one last look. I unplugged the wire harness connector that is directly on top of the E-Brake pedal to see if maybe it would reset interior functions. Plugged back in but problem still remained. But I did notice something I did not like the the hood release cable was running over the top of the wire harness putting a lot of pressure on the wires against the E-Brake mounting bracket. So I decided to remedy that and disconnected the hood release cable. Unplugged the wire harness connector again so I could put on other side of hood cable. But when I twisted the harness cables I saw a very small glimmer of copper. And sure enough there was a tiny cut in one of the wires. This was one of the wires that was hard up against the E-Brake bracket. So everytime I used E-Brake to park it was shorting out the wire. Held it off the bracket and checked all functions everything worked perfectly. So wrapped it up with some electrical tape rerouted the hood release cable. Put everything back together and cracked myself a well deserved Beer. I could not be happier right now knowing I will not be bringing my baby to the butchership. Thanks again everyone for all the support throughout my search. Also you might want to take a look at your own vehicles to see if the hood release cable is over the top of your wires. I would not want to see this happen to someone else if it can be avoided. Just another example of factory laziness taking the easy route. Going over instead of under the wires.


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Good Job, the dealership would have had that thing in a million pieces trying to figure that out and it would have never been the same.
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Re: 15 Overland gremlins

What no photo of the nicked wire

A photo of how you think it should be routed would be helpful though.

Nice work !!

I suspect yours won't be the last this happens to.


P.S. You might want to retitle your thread so people can find it in the future.
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Sorry MSW no pics as the wire in question is part of the huge plug in connection above the E- brake pedal and was twisted around about 20 other wires. Believe me I tried to untangle it for a pic but there was zero slack in the wire so I did not want to pull on it to hard and have it break on me. Then I would have had a really big problem on my hand. The problem which will be very easy to see is first remove the felt panel under the steering wheel. You will then see the connection I'am referring to above the E- brake pedal cannot miss it. You then look at the hood release cable and see if it is run under or over the bundle of wires to the connection. Mine was over the wires pinching all of them against the top of the silver mounting plate of the E-brake which has a very sharp top edge on it. Which is what caused my problem by chafing the wire. So if you see you have this problem you only need to reroute the hood release cable to underneath the bundle of wires so the wires are on the top of the cable. Once you take a look you will see exactly what I'am talking about. I would certainly recommend anyone reading this to take a look at there's. It's only about a 15 min job to do. Could save you a lot of head scratching down the road. Or worse yet a trip to the Dealership. If anyone has any questions or concerns please don't hesitate to ask ok.
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Old 05-28-2015, 01:29 AM
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Re: 15 Overland gremlins

Well done Dennis! Your perseverance paid off and your posting/documenting of this problem will likely help another JeepGarage member in the future. Moderators should take note and put this thread in the TROUBLE SHOOTING/PROBLEMS/SERVICE forum.

On a side note you mentioned you took it to a dealer and the service manager, "reluctantly walked over opened door and shook the rubber covering door wire harness. Of course nothing changed. Said will need to tear into it remove door panel possibly dash to get to BCM. Will probably need a few days to figure it out." The service manager may have been trying a 1997-2003 C5 Corvette electrical gremlin quick fix. To make a long story short I owned a 2003 Corvette for 12 years (purchased new) and this generation Corvette has many gremlins but one notorious electrical gremlin was an electrical short in the wiring harness which travels through the accordion style rubber boot between the drivers door and the body. When your Corvette's electrical system suddenly goes haywire, windows don't work, HVAC don't work, computer makes car run at half power limp mode and much more the quick fix was to simply grab that rubber boot and twist it up until the car's electrical system recovers. By twisting it up you temporarily separate the electrical short and the car runs fine until the short reoccurs by opening/closing the door or if water gets inside the boot, or your simply driving down the road hit a bump and those two wires rub together and the electrical short happens. Sometimes that twisting quick fix could last for years and sometimes it would only work for a day or so. Eventually you have to open up that harness, find the short and tape it up. Chevy dealers to this day do not recognize this problem and don't know how to fix this particular gremlin. Thus owners go online and find the cure at the Corvette Forum.
Again congrats on a job well done!
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