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Old 05-08-2016, 03:13 PM
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Re: 15 vs 16

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Milous said the new 2016 3.6 is like 80% new parts if i remember correctly. So its not just a stronger starter tack on for start/stop, its a significantly redesigned engine from the old 2015 3.6. I have not driven it so i cant comment on how it feels but it would not surprise me that it would have a noticable improvement over the old 2015 v6 given how changed it is.

I have driven both and it definitely feels like a noticeable improvement. My guess is that a lot of that is the fact that it develops torque lower in the curve.


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Old 05-08-2016, 06:34 PM
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I have driven both and it definitely feels like a noticeable improvement. My guess is that a lot of that is the fact that it develops torque lower in the curve.

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Yeah i did remember reading about the more lower end torque it was supposed to have. What about the 40-75mph passing range where you able to try that at all on the new 3.6? I have had the old style 2015 3.6 as a rental before and i didnt really have much issue with it driving around town but it was that 40-75mph passing range that kinda often found my foot on the floor wanting more sometimes. Did it help that range at all or is it more of a low end improvement?
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Old 05-08-2016, 06:45 PM
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Re: 15 vs 16

IMHO it was quite a bit better in the 40-75. I drove the diesel, 3.6 and the hemi all back to back on the same route (deciding which one to buy). The 3.6 actually felt better on the freeway to me than the diesel.
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Old 05-08-2016, 07:19 PM
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Re: 15 vs 16

Guess no one cares about E-85.
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Re: 15 vs 16

Sounds like most of you prefer the 16 over the 15 but based on the the ones I test drove(which were laredos 3.6) the 15's just felt better constructed, and drove smoother with more pickup. I'm sorry I can't elaborate much..just my opinion. That damn shifter just kind of scared me away. Felt quite awkward for both test drives. Having to look at the dash just to make sure I'm in park felt very unnatural. Another thing that turned me off about jeep is the service. The service at my local dealer is horrible. They don't seem to give a rats ass about customer service...but I know every dealer is different.
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Old 05-08-2016, 10:51 PM
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Sounds like most of you prefer the 16 over the 15 but based on the the ones I test drove(which were laredos 3.6) the 15's just felt better constructed, and drove smoother with more pickup. I'm sorry I can't elaborate much..just my opinion. That damn shifter just kind of scared me away. Felt quite awkward for both test drives. Having to look at the dash just to make sure I'm in park felt very unnatural. Another thing that turned me off about jeep is the service. The service at my local dealer is horrible. They don't seem to give a rats ass about customer service...but I know every dealer is different.
Good service is important. If you don't have a good dealer that you can rely that is definitely a consideration. If you don't have a dealer you can rely on, it can significantly affect your experience.
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Re: 15 vs 16

It sounds like you don't have a strong preference betweek 15/16. That being the case, pick up a 15 only if you can get a HUGE discount. Here in So Cal I have seen -9K and a dealer discount on top of that. IF not a big savings, get the 16 or wait and get a 16 at huge discount when the 17's start rolling out.

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Old 05-08-2016, 11:48 PM
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That damn shifter just kind of scared me away. Felt quite awkward for both test drives.
I really like the 14/15 shifter, especially being able to chuck it back into sport mode when a bit more go is needed. I'll have to check out the 16 shifter, but seems a step backward to me.
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Old 05-08-2016, 11:54 PM
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Guess no one cares about E-85.
Nope. My 2012 and 2014 both had the V6. Not once did I use E-85 in 4 years. Wasn't even a concern or a thought when I got my 2016 with the Hemi.
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Nope. My 2012 and 2014 both had the V6. Not once did I use E-85 in 4 years. Wasn't even a concern or a thought when I got my 2016 with the Hemi.
I honestly hope that corn based ethanol dies a horrible death. It is a crappy fuel that is hard on engines and it makes zero sense in a world where people still go hungry to turn food into fuel, especially when oil is so cheap and plentiful.
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Re: 15 vs 16

Does any one know if the new 2017 diesel has an extended time between oil changes, or is it still 10,000 kilometres?

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Old 05-09-2016, 10:13 PM
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Does any one know if the new 2017 diesel has an extended time between oil changes, or is it still 10,000 kilometres?

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I don't know about the 10,000 KM interval, but the 2015 Diesel supplement manual says 16,000 KM or 1 year. So the newer models should be able to match it at least.
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