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Old 09-11-2014, 11:34 AM
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I'd have to strongly disagree with your cotton theory. There are countless posts online from detailers about the best product for your paint surface. Microfiber waffle-weave comes out at the top nearly every time.
Remember, I said to use 100% cotton to WASH your car, not dry it.

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First you say it's not good for your paint and then you say you can remove wax with it. If it's not good for you paint then it wouldn't be good in any circumstance.
Actually I said clearcoat...not paint. Microfiber is fine for removing wax since there is an over abundance of it on the surface when first removing the product.

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Old 09-11-2014, 11:58 AM
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Remember, I said to use 100% cotton to WASH your car, not dry it.

Actually I said clearcoat...not paint. Microfiber is fine for removing wax since there is an over abundance of it on the surface when first removing the product.
You do realize you're still wiping the surface in both instances?
If you say not to use microfiber because it scratches paint or clear-coat then you shouldn't use it all. Not while washing OR waxing.

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Clay barring, overkill?

If you're taking the time to wax your entire roof on a step ladder, using a clay bar is similarly tedious and "overkill".

But I think it's necessary if you're trying to detail it in the first place. It's a primary step to remove all the contaminants off your paint. It doesn't have to be done every wash though, that's for sure.
I'd have to agree with what he said.

Dealer did a hands free pressure wash, but I was surprised just how much crud came off after a good multi-bucket wash at home followed by a pressure wash, then clay.

I'd consider one of the nano waxes followed by a goodly schlop of carnauba to protect it over the winter.

If you have access to even those wand washes, try to get underneath at least once every couple weeks, and also pop the hood and wash the engine compartment including the brake master cylinder area... good rinsing of road salt off is more critical than monthly waxing if you intend to keep the vehicle without it recycling itself all over the streets.
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I know it's something that the serious enthusiasts would run screaming from the room about, but...I just go to the local car wash. Or occasionally talk one or both of my daughters to wash it. They are teens so that doesn't happen often...
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My name is Lon.
And I am also a commercial carwashoholic, particularly when the stress of freezing my bohurkus off in winter gets to me.

I'd start your seven step program, but the touchless ones seem to do an adequate job of undercarriage wash than I can unless I break out my pressure washer in freezing weather, remove the freeze covers on all external faucets, etc. etc. use them, put them back, whereas the car wash takes about 5 minutes.
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Ugh. I HATE washing cars. Someone come and do mine please!
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$150 per hour, plus you must supply the coffee and chocolate [Trader Joe only]

Personally I find it a good brainless physical activity time where I get to chat with the neighbors, say hi to all the neighborhood dogs, a couple cats, and the yard's cottontail rabbit family that for some really odd reason likes to watch.
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Personally I find it a good brainless physical activity time where I get to chat with the neighbors, say hi to all the neighborhood dogs, a couple cats, and the yard's cottontail rabbit family that for some really odd reason likes to watch.
Man, I'll pay YOU to let me wash my car in your neighborhood with all those animal meet n greets. That sounds like best car wash situation ever!
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Ugh. I HATE washing cars. Someone come and do mine please!
Yea same here. Specially now with the drought here in Cali, my water is strictly for restroom, washer, cooking and sprinklers. With that i'm already way over what i used to pay 2 yrs ago. Now imagine how much more it would go up if i start washing my truck and wifes car?

It's been almost 3 months now since i picked up the Jeep, i think its time to have it detailed, possibly clay'd, waxed and washed.
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You do realize you're still wiping the surface in both instances?
...and you do realize the fibers are full of wax...and that wax is a better lubricator than water, correct?

There's no double speak here...I said hydrophillic cotton is a better material to use than a hydrophobic man-made fiber when washing a vehicle (and so does Zaino), and I said it's OK to use microfiber when taking wax off, since at that step it doesn't really matter if you use cotton or not. Everybody knows that most of the swirls and micro scratches one gets is from washing, not waxing.

Clear now?
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2 bucket method!

Microfiber towels! Clay before the full detail! I usually pressure wash my rig before I do anything at the coin wash to take off most of the dirt then on the washing microfiber wash mitt
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...and you do realize the fibers are full of wax...and that wax is a better lubricator than water, correct?

There's no double speak here...I said hydrophillic cotton is a better material to use than a hydrophobic man-made fiber when washing a vehicle (and so does Zaino), and I said it's OK to use microfiber when taking wax off, since at that step it doesn't really matter if you use cotton or not. Everybody knows that most of the swirls and micro scratches one gets is from washing, not waxing.

Clear now?
It's clear that you're going to ignore what most professionals recommend and do what you want. No issue here since I won't be buying your cars.

Btw it's hydrophilic. Clear?
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It's clear that you're going to ignore what most professionals recommend and do what you want.
I'd take advice from the Zaino company before I listen to the "professionals" you speak of.

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No issue here since I won't be buying your cars.
And I wouldn't be buying your vehicles either...what was the point of that comment? Taking your ball and going home? Nice catch on the spelling though...you win I guess.

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