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Re: 2011 GC NOT at NY Auto Show!

There must be a better explanation than that.
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Old 04-03-2010, 07:07 PM
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Re: 2011 GC NOT at NY Auto Show!

The real explanation for the 2011 GC being AWOL at the NY Show may simply be that Fiat's CEO is not competent to lead an American vehicular heavyweight.

So far, Sr. Marchionne hasn't so much as kept in personal touch with most of Chrysler's main managers. This monarchial attitude may go over in Italy, but it is anathema in this country. Successful managers here, like Ford's Alan Mulally, are gregarious, up front and don't get lost in lofty airs.

But there's more. Traditionally, the main part of each annual dealers' convention is having the CEO speak in person to clue in and energize dealerships. But where was Sergio Marchionne this year? AWOL, without explanation. What a grand way to utterly demoralize your dealers!

And if that weren't enough, after arbitration was completed with restored dealerships last week, Chrysler handed the dealers an outrageous roster of terms (see here). How do you say "flip off" in Italian?

So, Chrysler's management is being ignored, dealers are being shunned and insulted, and to that we can now add that the buying public isn't being treated much better (as mentioned earlier, see here). Activists at JeepGarage are arguably the heart and soul of Jeep's buying public, and even here folks are beginning to lose patience.

Much has been made over the years about American multinational companies setting up shop overseas, then failing because they treated foreign markets as though they were 51st states. What we saw with Daimler was the same thing with the direction reversed, and it is beginning to appear that we're witnessing Round 2 of this mentality at Chrysler, thanks to Fiat.

Obviously, it is much too early to reach conclusions. But even if the Fiat-Chrysler marriage ultimately succeeds, as we all hope, there's no question that history will show it was in spite of Fiat's obstinate managerial bumbling during its first year.
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Re: 2011 GC NOT at NY Auto Show!

You would think that the official NY Autoshow webpage would have it right?http://www.autoshowny.com/galleries/latest ,on the second page is teh 2011 WK2.
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Re: 2011 GC NOT at NY Auto Show!

The 2011 Range Rover is pretty darned sharp, if that's what it actually looks like.
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Re: 2011 GC NOT at NY Auto Show!

well this weekend is the central illinois auto show, and no 2011 grand cherokee but they have the 2010 grand cherokee, woohoo I can just go to the dealer down the street instead and see one of those for free.
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Re: 2011 GC NOT at NY Auto Show!

supposidly they are waiting for the suv to be "flawless" before showing it and selling them. http://content.usatoday.com/communit...ll-flawless-/1
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Re: 2011 GC NOT at NY Auto Show!

would you guys of givin me rep if I came back with like 30 pics of the 2011 grand cherokee?
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Re: 2011 GC NOT at NY Auto Show!

Makes one wonder how many of the 2010 GC's are on the dealer lots and on the Jeep distribution lots? That could be another reason for the delay as well.
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Re: 2011 GC NOT at NY Auto Show!

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Makes one wonder how many of the 2010 GC's are on the dealer lots and on the Jeep distribution lots? That could be another reason for the delay as well.
The delay is the opening of the order banks, production is still on schedulr for May 3rd (framing) and May 10th (Job1). However, as mentioned the QC is going to go to levels far greater than what has been done for any prior launch. This will probably result in vehicles not hitting dealer lots until late June. Jeep has already started to set dates (late June) for some special regional events that will involve a number if dealers getting to drive one of the new WK2's home.
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Re: 2011 GC NOT at NY Auto Show!

If I understand correctly no changes (except adding ELSD in front) have happened in the 2011 GC?

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Re: 2011 GC NOT at NY Auto Show!

Have any new advances been made in rust proofing? What kind of "rust" warranty will be offered on these things? I've lived in Michigan for about seven years now, and I've never had to deal with salt, and its associated rust. All I can say is that it sucks. I just found a spot on my WJ, and I was hoping it would last 10 more years. I'm gonna have to jump on it and get something done before it gets worse.
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Re: 2011 GC NOT at NY Auto Show!

there were a lot of cool cars there at the show this year
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