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Re: 2011 GC Too Typical?

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I'm saying judging by 99% of other manufacturers, "Export" WH's as you call them will likely have slightly unique specifications for springs and shocks...

...What I'm saying is the world is not flat, and never underestimate manufacturers refining their product for use in specific countries.
An example(kind of?): Ford Contour. I was a huge Contour enthusiast. I owned 3 of them, including a 98 SVT. One of the first modifications to any Contour is to replace even the SVT suspension with the Mondeo stuff. Mondeo being the Euro-spec Contour. The base model Mondeo suspension was an infinitely better setup than anything we were given. It lowered the stance and greatly improved handling. Very easy to do, too. About $400 and 2 hours of your time and you had a much different car than what you started with.
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Old 05-10-2010, 10:19 PM
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Re: 2011 GC Too Typical?

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Never owned a 5.9. Have owned a '93 5.2, an 02 Overland, as well as a 98 Navigator, 01 GMC Yukon Denali, 03 MB E500 and a '10 MB E550 4matic. Never owned truely fast cars but have driven plenty. Flogged a z06 just three weeks ago at PIR.

Anyway the point I was trying to make isn't that the 5.9 is a shitty vehicle...just that people get stuck on it like it was the greatest jeep ever made. I am definetly not the kinda person that buys nothing but one brand of car either, just whatever is best, or best suits me at the time.

Also hard to take anyone seriously when they type "LOL"
Well, it is the internet afterall and it's an expression used for a silly ha ha, not that I'm sitting here laughing. I don't use it excessively, but substitute it for smileys at times. Different strokes to different folks, I guess...

Perhaps it's the way you came across with your statement, I don't know. I believe the 5.9 is held in high regard because it was a good performer on the street (for an SUV), yet did really well offroad and had the "jeep" look. Sure it has shortcomings, but to me, it had the right balance of everything that it should (of course we all have a dream list of what we think the mfr should come out with, but realistically...) and allowed a good amount of 'easy' modification. Is it the end all to be all, no...nothing is, but it was a cool vehicle that was released only one year and received items you couldn't get with other models. Not to mention, the quality of the leather made you feel that it was at least partially worth the $43k they went for. It was not meant to be the latest and greatest, but a final hoorah for the ZJ...To blatantly call it unreliable and a gas hog, etc., spews ignorance and what ends up sounding like hearsay/magazine reading and hence my comment. didn't mean to offend, but illustrate a point...I wouldn't say it's the best Jeep ever either (I think the Rubicon is pretty cool, but can't live with the impracticality aspect of it), but a good platform to start with and one of the last true 4x4's

As for export markets, yeah, they change a lot of little things and I don't think they're saying it's a different design more of a different setup with bushing materials, shock/spring rates, etc.? Then again, I suppose in some markets they could go all out and even have "lifted" versions already, etc...

Ever see all the Toyota or Daihatsu vehicles around the world and their various configurations? (as an example)
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I'm saying judging by 99% of other manufacturers, "Export" WH's as you call them will likely have slightly unique specifications for springs and shocks.

Good companies like Toyota have even discovered that they need (for example) headlight plastics unique to Australia, to deal with our "high acid content" bugs! Sounds outrageous, but it's true.

What I'm saying is the world is not flat, and never underestimate manufacturers refining their product for use in specific countries.

Maybe Milous can confirm re the WH, maybe he can't.
Maybe they were all the same spec, because as I've said many times before, the WH on its standard springs and shocks is the most appallingly floaty ride I've ever experienced! lol

sounds like the US spec WK to me....LOL
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so your saying that export WK's(H) have a different suspension? I would like to see proof. Not questioning...just be new to me
I will try to dig out the articles, but I remember when the first ones arrived I think either Top Gear, or What Car if not both reviewed them.

The WK`s were slated media wide, the suspension was then stiffened, and interior upgraded. The UK market is the most demanding market when it comes to luxuries, and refinement
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OK - Who's been cross posting from the Exploder site????
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Re: 2011 GC Too Typical?

I'd say its the best looking SUV outside of the X5, which is twice the amount of money. I love the look of it.
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Re: 2011 GC Too Typical?

^Not even close. I think the WK2 is the ugliest Jeep ever.
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Yes JEEP is really going downhill.... look at all these changes... now it is hideous!
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NO ITS NOT.... ITS BEAUTIFUL....
Your opinion. I gave mine. I think the WK2 looks like a grocery-chasing soccer mom vehicle.

On top of that, thanks for the visual display of what I consider to be the contunuing ruination of a great vehicle. You saved me the time of doing it.
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