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Re: 2011 Grand Cherokee Overland Summit Edition

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Hello - new to this site.

I was at a dealer today in Florida and the salesperson printed out a sheet that shows ordering a Summit has a "restriction" on the 26R line....that the order can't be completed yet???

Here is what I want.....Summit 4x4 V8 in Mineral Gray with the latest tech which I understand to be 730N RHR. I don't want the engine block heater, the additional chrome (Summit comes with enough), ORAII (I want the 20" wheels which apparently are NOT "Trail Rated" according to the Jeep engineer in charge of that stuff), and Rear DVD (I want the large double sunroof so no Rear DVD). (I want the tow group option and that is standard with the 4WD Overlands including Summit.)

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(1) When will these be delivered if ordered soon (sales person speculated 10+ weeks)?

(2) Does 730N RHR also have Garmin like the 430N?

(3) I haven't signed up for tread lightly yet, but is it true you get hassle-free 1% below invoice AND will receive any incentives that pop up between now and delivery??? I'm a cash buyer (no leasing) and have continuously owned 6-7 Jeep Grand Cherokees since 1992 (and yet there is no loyalty discount...bummer).

Thanks for any information on this.

My alternative is to take delivery of a new currently "in transit" Overland 4x4 V8 black exterior with the dark/light frost beige interior and the Adaptive Cruise control et al option.

P.S. Trivia - Sales Option YG1 is "7.5 Additional Gallons of Gas" at FWP $21 and $0 MSRP.
answer to #1: You should expect to wait 2-3 months based on recent 4x4 Overland saddle/tech orders (as these are standard on summit).

answer to #2: Nope, uses Harmon technology with "dead reckoning" which means it also uses the hard drive to help calculate routes (in case you lose sat reception) and adds voice command for navigation controls (so you can find direction while driving). IMPO, I prefer the Garmin 430n unit.

answer to #3: My dealer accepted tread lightly with no hassle. 1% below invoice.

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Re: 2011 Grand Cherokee Overland Summit Edition

Thanks for the reply.

I don't know which would be preferable, the new 730N (RHR) or the available now 430N? For some reason I would think the Garmin interface would be superior. My 2005 JGC nav system is getting pretty long in the tooth...

Any thoughts on the new 730N (RHR) versus 430N? Should I wait for the new 730N (RHR)?
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Re: 2011 Grand Cherokee Overland Summit Edition

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Thanks for the reply.

I don't know which would be preferable, the new 730N (RHR) or the available now 430N? For some reason I would think the Garmin interface would be superior. My 2005 JGC nav system is getting pretty long in the tooth...

Any thoughts on the new 730N (RHR) versus 430N? Should I wait for the new 730N (RHR)?
There has been a lot of discussion on this forum about the comparisons between the two. Most that don't have orders placed yet seem to be opting for the RHR. There are only 2 upgrades that I can see that the RHR has over the RHB, and they are 1) dead reckoning and 2) voice command for GPS.

Dead reckoning is a non-starter for me. Think about it, when and if you lose sat reception it would prob be for a very short period of time. Not enough of a reason to make me want want that feature. I haven't heard of anyone losing reception on the RHB yet either.

Voice command for GPS may be useful. But you can always buy a lockpick and bypass the fact that you can't enter directions while in motion. From my experience with the last generation of voice command and U-connect I found it to be very buggy and the need to keep repeating yourself into the mic becomes very annoying. For this reason I don't think voice command for GPS is a very big deal. Btw, I'm pretty sure the RHB has voice command for music selection.

Overall, the base features on the RHB are enough for me and the fact that Garmin has a really user friendly interface. It's also kind of cool to have a Garmin product integrated into Chrysler software.

My 2 cents....
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Re: 2011 Grand Cherokee Overland Summit Edition

I'll have to do a bit more research on the nav's.... My old 2005 JGC nav didn't allow in motion inputs but a more recent DVD update now allows it which is a huge improvement. Are you saying that the 430N Garmin system does NOT allow in motion input? That may be a deal breaker for me on the 430N.
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Re: 2011 Grand Cherokee Overland Summit Edition

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I'll have to do a bit more research on the nav's.... My old 2005 JGC nav didn't allow in motion inputs but a more recent DVD update now allows it which is a huge improvement. Are you saying that the 430N Garmin system does NOT allow in motion input? That may be a deal breaker for me on the 430N.
I believe that is correct. You can only input manually when in park with the 430N but the 730N allows voice command programming for your destination. That is why it was a deal breaker for me.

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Re: 2011 Grand Cherokee Overland Summit Edition

My salesperson gave me a printout sheet on an order for a Summit 4x4 V6 that shows "restriction" for the 26R (Summit). Status shows as "Status: BA - Pending order". It was printed out two days ago according to the sheet.

The order includes the AWY Off-Road Adventure II at $275 MSRP and $245 FWP.

Here are the Summit 4x4 V6 pricings listed with the AWY option selected:

MSRP: $45,445
FWP: $42,640
HB: $1,340
FFP: $42,214
EP: $40,583

I don't know what the codes all are, but here is my guess (anybody that knows the exact words would be helpful):

MSRP (Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price), FWP (Factory Wholesale Price), HB (Hold Back?), FFP (Friends & Family Price?), EP (Employee Price?).

10.7% discount to employees???....maybe they'll let me sweep the floors for a bit to get it! LOL
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Re: 2011 Grand Cherokee Overland Summit Edition

Will the summit edition only be available for 2011 or is this new trim level like the overland that will be available for years to come?
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Re: 2011 Grand Cherokee Overland Summit Edition

I went to a dealership today that told me on Monday they could order my Summit with the new 730. I asked the salesman several times and he assured me he could. Well, he was a huge LIER! Even though I knew better based on what has been written here & per Milous; I had some small hope he could do it. The dealership was 40 miles from my home and want this douchebag to reimburse me my gas money. I got up & walked out of his office when he said the Overland didn't come in rugged brown and he had no idea what the "Summit Edition" was (despite him answering my email with very specific specs that he could order the Summit in rugged brown, with the 730 & then later confirming it in a phone conversation)!
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Re: 2011 Grand Cherokee Overland Summit Edition

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I'll have to do a bit more research on the nav's.... My old 2005 JGC nav didn't allow in motion inputs but a more recent DVD update now allows it which is a huge improvement. Are you saying that the 430N Garmin system does NOT allow in motion input? That may be a deal breaker for me on the 430N.
It's probably restricted to allow the driver to input "Recent Routes" only while in motion. Much like the old REC and RER units. I've heard of a lot of the people on this forum buying the lockpick to bypass this feature.

However, if you're in the market for a summit or a comparable base overland then you're most likely going to get the RHR as a default anyway due to the timing of your order. I think jeep will discontinue the 430n or offer it as option on future orders, maybe on Limited and below models only or something like that.
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Re: 2011 Grand Cherokee Overland Summit Edition

jmpdev2020 - I would think a Garmin based system would be superior? I know I was always a bit disappointed with my 2005 JGC's nav system and later updated the DVD to allow in motion inputs...I was really looking forward to the new tech in the 2011 JGC's which is a major selling feature for me so I want the best nav system... Should I insist on (or wait for) the 730N RHR???

Also, a dealer in my area is getting (in transit) an Overland 4x4 V8 with Advanced Warning and Adaptive Cruise Control option in black exterior and dark/light frost beige interior this week. I may just jump on that although the Summit 4x4 V8 in Mineral Gray would be better but probably 3 months away... The black Overland has the 430N so I'll need to decide if the 430N is acceptable................
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Re: 2011 Grand Cherokee Overland Summit Edition

12/19/10 - Don't see the RHR listed anywhere. New code guide was just issued, RHB is listed as standard for the Overland.

When you place an order for the Summit Edition (in which the RHR is standard), a "Premium Group Discount" shows up which gives a credit of -$305. That means the RHB is being supplied, and the credit will come off when the RHR becomes available.

The RHR also does not come up when trying to order a Limited.

Same for Canada.
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Re: 2011 Grand Cherokee Overland Summit Edition

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12/19/10 - Don't see the RHR listed anywhere. New code guide was just issued, RHB is listed as standard for the Overland.

When you place an order for the Summit Edition (in which the RHR is standard), a "Premium Group Discount" shows up which gives a credit of -$305. That means the RHB is being supplied, and the credit will come off when the RHR becomes available.

The RHR also does not come up when trying to order a Limited.

Same for Canada.
Thanks again - This is applicable to a thread I started. I will wait to order.
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