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Re: 2011 Grand Cherokee vs. 2011 Ford Explorer

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Nissan Rogue? Is that guy effing serious? Must be what he drives.



Really?


Honestly? The guy that wrote this should be canned immediately. What does the Rogue have for an engine? A sewing machine? I bet I can bury that Rogue in three inches of snow...that's how much clearance it probably has plus all 4 wheels would spin at the same time with no correction being added to any of the tires where the tire may be able to grip into something. Poop on him! Ya I said that!
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Re: 2011 Grand Cherokee vs. 2011 Ford Explorer

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Nope

It is built on the Taurus platform actually
And isn't that the platform that also supports the Edge? I thought they were all on the same one.
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Re: 2011 Grand Cherokee vs. 2011 Ford Explorer

The new Explorer will certainly have its followers, but IMHO JCG just seems classier.
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Re: 2011 Grand Cherokee vs. 2011 Ford Explorer

The 2011 GC platform is also not unique. Jeep uses the Mercedes M Class plattform.

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And isn't that the platform that also supports the Edge? I thought they were all on the same one.
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Re: 2011 Grand Cherokee vs. 2011 Ford Explorer

Correct, but it's not a car platform. The Explorer is now technically a crossover while the Jeep is an SUV.
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Re: 2011 Grand Cherokee vs. 2011 Ford Explorer

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What is the tow rating for the best Ford model offered? That's one BIG thing that brought me to jeep....the ability to tow my tandem boat and car trailers. NOBODY else has this kinda ability in an SUV without getting into more bux and bigger sizes.
Explorer will only be a max of 5,000lbs
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Re: 2011 Grand Cherokee vs. 2011 Ford Explorer

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And isn't that the platform that also supports the Edge? I thought they were all on the same one.
hmmm.....you may be right. All I know is how the Explorer is based on the taurus.
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And isn't that the platform that also supports the Edge? I thought they were all on the same one.
Flex, not Edge.


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The new Explorer will certainly have its followers, but IMHO JCG just seems classier.
That is Ford in general. Ford will always have a large following no matter what. That is why the market allowed Ford to stay with the gen 4 Taurus for so long and to still have Mercury despite the fact that Mercury isn't an "upgrade" from Ford.

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Correct, but it's not a car platform. The Explorer is now technically a crossover while the Jeep is an SUV.
Bingo. Which is why comparing the two cars is an unfair race for both cars involved IMO
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Re: 2011 Grand Cherokee vs. 2011 Ford Explorer

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Just read an article:

http://www.digitaltrends.com/lifesty...erokee-review/

I hate how they refer to the GC as a crossover. It's a full-time real deal non transforming SUV. The article ends with the reviewer wondering if the Explorer will dethrone the GC. I'd beg to differ. They called the GC "unstuckable" after trying to get it stuck...hahaha.


What are your thoughts on the new explorer vs the gc? I think Ford copied Jeep big time...just read up on the features.

Here are some copied features. Jeep set the bar...now everyone else is playing catch up. Good luck catching up to the GC if it decides to hit the trails.

Terrain management
Heated/Cooled seats
Auto-climate control with command start (summer vs winter)
Class Exclusive Adaptive Cruise (liars)

Anyways. This article makes me love my GC even more...
Explorer will be cross shopped with Durango, Acadia, Traverse, Pilot, Highlander... not even remotely in the same class as the GC....whoever wrote this article has zero automobile cred
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Re: 2011 Grand Cherokee vs. 2011 Ford Explorer

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Honestly? The guy that wrote this should be canned immediately. What does the Rogue have for an engine? A sewing machine? I bet I can bury that Rogue in three inches of snow...that's how much clearance it probably has plus all 4 wheels would spin at the same time with no correction being added to any of the tires where the tire may be able to grip into something. Poop on him! Ya I said that!
"not as dirt-flinging and rugged as the Nissan Rogue" - pretty sure he meant the XTERRA, as the rest of the review seems very coherent.
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Re: 2011 Grand Cherokee vs. 2011 Ford Explorer

He mentioned the rogue multiple times if he doesn't even the difference between the two then maybe he should be working at payless or something...
IMHO the xterra doesn't compare to the WK2s.
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Correct, but it's not a car platform. The Explorer is now technically a crossover while the Jeep is an SUV.
I don't think there is any set definition of a crossover SUV these days...there are so many variations that an argument can be made either way. For example, the Grand Cherokee isn't body-on-frame....it isn't even built on a boxed ladder frame....it no longer has a live rear axle. Like it or not, Jeep is moving the Grand Cherokee closer and closer to a crossover SUV with every redesign.

If you want to buy a new SUV that doesn't approach crossover status, your choices are extremely limited. There are a few SUVs today that are body-on-frame, with fully boxed ladder frames and solid rear axles, but I don't know how much longer we'll see those vehicles available in the future....
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