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Old 06-03-2013, 01:26 PM
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Re: 2012, 2013, or 2014 tech?

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Thanks for the replies so far.

I mean, it's no surprise that people would gravitate towards the newer model... but yeah hearing details about how the backup camera or the start button/key fob are different are details that I'm interested in knowing about. Sitting in both models will obviously be helpful, but some things you just don't notice until you're using them on a daily basis.

Keep them coming guys! It's much appreciated!
For the backup camera specifically I believe they are using a higher resolution camera as well so the detail is actually better not just bigger.

One thing people aren't really mentioning and I am a tech guy too but the Transmission is a significant update in technology. I have the older 5 speed in my Durango and I simply love the new 8 speed. It add a whole different dimension to the driving.
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Old 06-03-2013, 04:43 PM
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Re: 2012, 2013, or 2014 tech?

I am surprised nobody touched on the advanced technology package yet. Well, since that is important to the OP, earlier models do not have forward collision warning WITH ACTIVE BRAKING. The previous generation only warned but did not brake which - knowing my wife - is the only reason I purchased the package, dropping an extra 6500 $ into the car. Maybe others are married to Danica Patricks but i surely am not. Better looking yes, but not as skilled. Behind the wheel at least.
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Re: 2012, 2013, or 2014 tech?

@f1anatic: haha... well, I'd settle with Danica's looks.

Thanks for that info. Is the active breaking something that can be toggled on/off, or how configurable is that feature in general? Do you find that it relinquishes too much control from the driver in your experience using it?
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Re: 2012, 2013, or 2014 tech?

I'm a big tech whore which pushed me to trade in my '13 for a '14. Like a previous poster said, the difference is night and day between the two. Kind of hard to believe they are only seperated by 7 months or so. If you're anything like me, I would lean more toward the newer model to mitigate any potential for buyer's remorse a few months down the road.
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@f1anatic: haha... well, I'd settle with Danica's looks.

Thanks for that info. Is the active breaking something that can be toggled on/off, or how configurable is that feature in general? Do you find that it relinquishes too much control from the driver in your experience using it?
It doesn't interfere... there were people who were concerned it didn't work because it didn't come on as they expected, until of course we pointed out it is only supposed to kick in if it is fairly certain you are going to hit the thing in front of you.

I admit, I am into the 2014 because of the tech. I do it all day and frankly this system is well ahead of the other premium brands right now (except they have a few wrinkles to iron out but I think they are getting there).
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Re: 2012, 2013, or 2014 tech?

@davekarn: Can you provide specifics that make you think it's 'night and day'? I get that the screens are bigger/better, but functionally I'm interested in hearing details about your experience.

@willx: So is the active braking supposed to slam on the brakes once impact is imminent, or what type of tolerance is there?
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Re: 2012, 2013, or 2014 tech?

@davekarn: Can you provide specifics that make you think it's 'night and day'? I get that the screens are bigger/better, but functionally I'm interested in hearing details about your experience.

@willx: So is the active braking supposed to slam on the brakes once impact is imminent, or what type of tolerance is there?
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Active braking applies something like 20% braking in a couple of shuddering on-off cycles to get your attention. It won't stop the car. This is based on me testing the system on purpose. You can turn it on or off and set the distance to activate (near or far). It also preps the brake system so that when you start pressing the breaks, you are closer to full braking power without having to press the brake all the way.

When I tried it, the whole Jeep shuddered when it pumped the brakes, in addition to the siren, you ain't gonna sleep through it, lol.
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Re: 2012, 2013, or 2014 tech?

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@davekarn: Can you provide specifics that make you think it's 'night and day'? I get that the screens are bigger/better, but functionally I'm interested in hearing details about your experience.

@willx: So is the active braking supposed to slam on the brakes once impact is imminent, or what type of tolerance is there?
When you sit inside the two, it's just a big overall difference. Between the 8.4" screen and 7" digital dashboard screen, coupled with the overall new look and style of the exterior and interior (to be fair, I'm also comparing a '13 Limited to a '14 Overland). Both my gf and I just felt better sitting in the new one. Felt more comfortable for one, and also everything felt more convenient.
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@davekarn: Can you provide specifics that make you think it's 'night and day'? I get that the screens are bigger/better, but functionally I'm interested in hearing details about your experience.

@willx: So is the active braking supposed to slam on the brakes once impact is imminent, or what type of tolerance is there?
To second lanrete's comments it is not intended to stop an impact but to lessen the damage and as a safety feature to the occupants. Lanrete is the only one I know who witnessed the brake action and it is not recommended to be testing the theory (though the way lanrete did it was exactly what I would have done)..... In another three I explained it is crash "mitigation" technology and is designed to "lessen" the crash impact. Kind of the way crumple zones absorb impact this is to slow you down.

None the less, the system could very well save someone's life if an object suddenly got in your path as it is capable of reacting well before a human can so big ++ on the safety tech
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Re: 2012, 2013, or 2014 tech?

Fifth gear had a test of VW, Merc, and Volvo. Only the Volvo was relliable in stopping before contact.
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Fifth gear had a test of VW, Merc, and Volvo. Only the Volvo was relliable in stopping before contact.
Actually, The Volvo system is different I believe. They are working on that system that also stops thier trucks. It isn't "Mitigation", it is designed to completely take over from the driver once they fail to respond to in cab warnings. Their cars are using "some" of the same tech.

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