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Re: 2012 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

Any chance for Charcoal gray to make it back for 2012?
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Re: 2012 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

In real life, how do the pearl coatings compare to the clear coat coatings?Are the colors more intense in one or the other?Advantages and disadvantages of each?

Which wears the best long term?

From site:

Xirallic®pigments are produced on the basis of a synthetic substrate, namely, aluminum oxide. Through the employment of a new crystallization process, it is possible to produce aluminum oxide platelets with a perfectly planar surface and a tight particle size distribution. The substrate is coated with highly refractive metal oxides. Xirallic® demonstrates a very strong glitter effect with a distinct shimmer behavior and distinguishes itself through strong and very pure interference colors. The effect is increased by directed light (for example sunlight).

It is my understanding that the above is used in the Pearl Coatings.
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Old 06-06-2011, 08:19 AM
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Re: 2012 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

Any chance the 6-speed will be Fiat's dual clutch TCT tranny?
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Any chance the 6-speed will be Fiat's dual clutch TCT tranny?
No chance at all...
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Re: 2012 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

A local dealer told me yesterday that orders for 2012s could be placed yesterday. Also that pricing info would be available today ... and that it would be 3% more than 2011. Are either of these actually true or are they just trying to get me to get the 2011 they already have?
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A local dealer told me yesterday that orders for 2012s could be placed yesterday. Also that pricing info would be available today ... and that it would be 3% more than 2011. Are either of these actually true or are they just trying to get me to get the 2011 they already have?
See the first post of the thread: "Order banks open: June 6". I would also imagine pricing to be available to dealers around the same time, otherwise how can they order their 2012 inventory when they don't know how much they're spending?
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Re: 2012 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

Any word on interior colors? I'm hoping the Saddle is still available in the regular Overland model. I can't find a 2011 2WD Overland with Saddle anywhere!
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Any word on interior colors? I'm hoping the Saddle is still available in the regular Overland model. I can't find a 2011 2WD Overland with Saddle anywhere!
For 2012, Saddle will return as an option on the regular Overland.
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A local dealer told me yesterday that orders for 2012s could be placed yesterday. Also that pricing info would be available today ... and that it would be 3% more than 2011. Are either of these actually true or are they just trying to get me to get the 2011 they already have?
Pricing is typically released within a few days of the production startup which is more than a month away.
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Pricing is typically released within a few days of the production startup which is more than a month away.
That's what I thought too. Thanks.
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Pricing is typically released within a few days of the production startup which is more than a month away.
So it sounds like dealerships will place orders now less based on the exact dollar amount of Invoice/MSRP and more based on the number/ratio of overlands, laredos, different options, colors, etc. they expect to sell in their region. 1-3% changes in price aren't going to vastly alter projected demand.

If that's the case, it would mean that a dealership couldn't really make you a deal on a 2012 until mid-July. They could theoretically order one for you but couldn't quote you an exact price.

All that correct?

Milous - you mentioned before that there were "many" reasons you would wait for a 2012. Besides the 6-speed for the V8, what are the top few? Are the new colors that awesome?

It's a tough question of whether to buy an outgoing 2011 on sale or wait since it seems like there are a number of deals out there on the 2011 Overland (zag.com is giving me guaranteed prices, confirmed by dealers, of $750-1500 under invoice, and a few dealers hungry to get outgoing 2011s off the floor wanted to work with me from there) and I'm wondering if they are planning to both raise prices and tighten up incentives/negotiating room when the 2012s come out. Seems like it was hard to get a good deal when the '11s first showed up.
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Anyone have a site to see the 2012 colors
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