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After miles and miles of research, I pulled the trigger on a 2014. Clearly the value is unmatched. The Beemer, Mercedes, an Acura are very fine vehicles but dollar for dollar can't match the GC.
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Old 04-12-2013, 06:30 PM
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Re: 2013 BMW X5 vs 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee

[QUOTE=Sleestak;802210]I have had several BMW's and each generation of the Grand Cherokee, most notably, the 2014 limited. I just traded my 2013 six weeks after I got it. Call me crazy or just "Sleez" for short. Curious what people are thinking about this subject. I personally feel the 2014 JGC has earned the right to be mentioned amongst the German brand SUVs including the X5. Having had both, I simply feel it's more capable and much better looking to say the least. Any other thoughts between the two? Sure, the X5 is a great vehicle but in addition to the exterior, the interior is less then to be desired.....and I love BMW's but for the $, no thanks....at least for now anyway...[/QUOTE]

I agree with Sleez. Like many on this board, we came out of a multitude of Audi's, Volvos, VW Touareg, and the better half is on her second Acura MDX. The WK2 absolutely compares favorably, if not outperforms in certain areas. For instance, the JGC is a capable OR vehicle, not so for the X5, recent gen Touareg, MDX or others. The 2013 MDX also lacks keyless entry, heated wheel, vented seats, etc, though we think very highly of it.

As others point out, price value is another victory for the Jeep. I learned the hard way that one pays $ for loaner cars, german service standards, and nice showrooms. German vehicles are analogous to Supermodels in terms of cost and maintenance.
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Re: 2013 BMW X5 vs 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee

I test drove the Mercedes ML and GL, BMW X5 and the RangeRover Sport - all very nice SUV's but all with very high price tags and the price increases dramatically when you start adding in options. I owned a Mercedes and a Cadillac Escalade, both were so so in terms of reliability for the price but yes the service was excellent. The lead interior designer for MB now works at Jeep hence the stitching, hand knot leather and command setup along with better quality materials used both in and outside.

I saw the Jeep Summit at the Auto show and realized all it came with for options over the others and the <20+k less of a price tag and was sold. Yes I give up the friendly service and loaner cars but that's ok as I have Jeep dealers around every corner.

The 2014 Summit provides me both the feel of a luxury SUV and the driving dynamics of a sports car. It has every option I could want at this stage.

Just yesterday I had an XPEL ultimate protection done on the front-end along with a full body detail at my friends detail shop who primarily works on high end cars - he was in AW when he finished with my Summit and agreed it was a much better decision than that of a RangeRover, MB etc.
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Re: 2013 BMW X5 vs 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee

All valid points across the board. I did not come to a Jeep forum to bash or put down the JGC. In fact on paper and in person, it is quite a vehicle, hence our interest..

However, today there is not a 20K difference in price between the vehicles in this conversation. In our case the preliminary numbers being crunched between the X5 and Summit is closer to 10-12K. While this is still a substantial chuck of change, it is a number that has us taking a harder look at the numbers and factors outside the bottom price of the vehicle. Each vehicle brings strengths and weaknesses. This thread was between the X5 and JGC...I dismissed all the Asian vehicles for this discussion and we are not even considering them. In fact, my wife's current vehicle is a Lexus and I don't care for it. Yes, she is used to the soft ride, but she also likes the vette which is on our bucket list.

I drive a Silverado LTZ and am quite happy with it, with a touch of luxury to boot.. so utility functionality is covered in our household
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Old 04-12-2013, 07:44 PM
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Re: 2013 BMW X5 vs 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee

BMW may cost more to maintain but it does have that awesome 4 year/50k mile maintenance program that's unmatched by any other company. But really, the jeep and the x5 are 2 completely different vehicles. The JGC is a real truck. No exceptions. The x5 is a tall passenger car. That car happens to be a BMW, which means a lot but it's still just a car.

Now, the other thing to keep in mind is aesthetics. Jeep is an American styled vehicle. Big, flashy, in your face. Nothing understated about it from the incredible busy-ness of the steering wheel to the italics everywhere. A BMW is much more sedate. Even the updated electronics in the F-body cars are still understated. Now this may not matter to you, but it's the biggest worry I have in making the switch from my BMW to a JGC.
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As an owner of neither of these vehicles, but as one (actually my wife) who is in the market for either of them, I want to weigh in on some items we found in our research and test drives between the X5 and the JGC Summit:

* The X5 Turbo I-6 is every bit as quick and powerful as the hemi we drove. In fact I feel it had more of the throw you back into the seat feel. Even the wife commented on this.

* The JGC Summit has a very nice interior and I like it better than the X5. The X5 is dated and will be updated next year. Yet the control surfaces on the X5 felt "better"

* There is no comparison BMW vs Jeep Dealer..Jeep is a no frills, instant coffee and a stale dougnut while you wait for your courtesy ride to work vs. here, have a nice Latte and a fresh pastry while be bring your courtesy car around front for you.

* I like the JGC ability to go out in to the country, I like the X5 carving up the canyon roads. Two different types of driving (me vs the Mrs)

*Better paint and color selection on the X5. JGC does itself an injustice here because of the lack of color (ext/int) on the flagship Summit. Also there was evidence of orange peel on the dark colored Summit we drove.

*Just found out that the electric rear hatch on the JGC is not height adjustable, but in the X5 you can do it on the fly from the Nav screen settings. Important if you have low hanging garage door openings

*More Jeep dealers across the country vs BMW dealers in case you need that kind of info.

*Maintenance is $$$ on X5..but COVERED under the warranty period. Extended warranty can be had with both.

Other minor differences between the two, but you get the idea. One thing is that the X5 drove better, but thats not to say that the JGC drove poorly. The X5 felt crisp, the JGC felt a tad slugish but sure footed. I like the JGC stance, but not the color selection for the Summit.

So is the X5 worth the price premium? Well that's the precise point we are at in our quest. To be honest, the Jeep dealer experience still felt of old school "what can we do today to get you into this vehicle.." The BMW experience was quite different in that respect. Resale, trade-in or residuals favor the BMW if that is an important factor to you It is a minor one to us as we tend to hang on to vehicles. Again, this was our experience and your mileage may very...

We actually like the Jeep concept and what it is trying to accomplish. Is it there yet? Well it is closing the gap and I am impressed. But it still needs a little more polish on the vehicle and culture change in the dealership if it intends to compete at this level.
camtach,

I couldn't second your reply more and totally appreciate your unbiased opinion. I would love to discuss this more with you as I am extremely familiar with both products. If you have a sec please call me 202.423.5060 as your input would be much appreciated.

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BMW may cost more to maintain but it does have that awesome 4 year/50k mile maintenance program that's unmatched by any other company. But really, the jeep and the x5 are 2 completely different vehicles. The JGC is a real truck. No exceptions. The x5 is a tall passenger car. That car happens to be a BMW, which means a lot but it's still just a car.

Now, the other thing to keep in mind is aesthetics. Jeep is an American styled vehicle. Big, flashy, in your face. Nothing understated about it from the incredible busy-ness of the steering wheel to the italics everywhere. A BMW is much more sedate. Even the updated electronics in the F-body cars are still understated. Now this may not matter to you, but it's the biggest worry I have in making the switch from my BMW to a JGC.
So you get an extra yr of maintenance covered, but what is the price of everything afterwards is the question you should ask. Jeep, Chevy, and Ford make maintenance easier and cheaper compared to expensive parts/maintenance of a BMW/Mercedes. So if you factor that in, it might be a horse a piece. I'd love to own a BMW x5, but the price and options aren't there for the price of an equally equipped JGC.
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So you get an extra yr of maintenance covered, but what is the price of everything afterwards is the question you should ask. Jeep, Chevy, and Ford make maintenance easier and cheaper compared to expensive parts/maintenance of a BMW/Mercedes. So if you factor that in, it might be a horse a piece. I'd love to own a BMW x5, but the price and options aren't there for the price of an equally equipped JGC.
I second that. Only waiting for the new X5 to hit the market and also excited for the new 4 series. Perhaps Bimmer will up the anty for updated interiors but the spy photos for the 2014 X5 are still rather disappointing.
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Re: 2013 BMW X5 vs 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee

It's not just an extra year of warranty. The 4 year maintenance covers everything. Brakes, oil changes, all warranty items. Essentially everything but tires and alignment. And they give you a loaner for nearly any service.

But you're absolutely right about expense post-maintenance plan. My car has an extended maintanence plan on it so I'm covered thru 100k but you better believe I would never own a BMW past that point. Too pricey and finicky for my tastes.
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BMW may cost more to maintain but it does have that awesome 4 year/50k mile maintenance program that's unmatched by any other company. But really, the jeep and the x5 are 2 completely different vehicles. The JGC is a real truck. No exceptions. The x5 is a tall passenger car. That car happens to be a BMW, which means a lot but it's still just a car.

Now, the other thing to keep in mind is aesthetics. Jeep is an American styled vehicle. Big, flashy, in your face. Nothing understated about it from the incredible busy-ness of the steering wheel to the italics everywhere. A BMW is much more sedate. Even the updated electronics in the F-body cars are still understated. Now this may not matter to you, but it's the biggest worry I have in making the switch from my BMW to a JGC.
I slightly disagree that the Jeep is a real truck. It is a unibody with no frame. A real truck has a frame...It too is more car-like than truck like..yet a very HD car as the body is quite stiff.

The electrical system in the BMW seems to be their weak spot. But I do have to say that all the snooty BMW owners that I work with, the dealers do take care of them...Besides, after seeing the pics of the 2014 X5, I am not impressed as i think it looks...well "whoosy"..the current X5 I think is quit nice looking and runs pretty well. I hate to admit it, but the X5 is impressive, cost be damned...

BTW I had 4 f-bodys in my day, the last being a 2000 WS6 Convertible....
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Re: 2013 BMW X5 vs 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee

Very different vehicles. The Jeep is much more capable, and has more the feel and style that we wanted out of an SUV, that go anywhere in comfort type of mentality. The Jeep is solid and comfortable on the road, but its heavy, sort of ponderous, where the X5 has an agility and precision that really belies its size.

I like the interior of the Jeep more than the X5, the X5 is definitely dated where even my 2011 Jeep feels fresher, where the 2014 certainly does. I have a good friend with a 2007 X5 and she really likes our Jeep.

Jeep service sucks if you are used to luxury brands. No way to sugar coat that.

I personally would not buy an X5 right now because the new one is right around the corner...
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Re: 2013 BMW X5 vs 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee

I was looking at 2011 X5 35i's and the 2014 JGC. I am now heavily leaning toward the JGC. $42k for a 2011 x5 with 22k miles & warranty until April 2016. I figured that the trade in at that time would be a little over $20k. That would be about $25k in depreciation with taxes when it's all said and done. That is tough to swallow. I think if you buy a 2014 JGC for $42 it will be worth more than the 2011 X5 in April 2016. Then again, I could be wrong.
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