Originally Posted by Mcdenny
Nautiboy, driving the Ltd and O'land back to back, did you sense much of a difference between the steel and air springs?
We weren't specifically tuning in to the differences in the springs because i'm definitely getting the QL regardless of Limited vs Overland. Also, the roads we were on really wouldn't highlight those type of differences. That being said, we both preferred the ride with the QL which is somewhat surprising because we have opposite preferences in ride type. I prefer a truck-like suspension, and am more adapted to a somewhat rough ride since my two other vehicles are an older explorer (back when they were using truck frames and suspensions) and a 78 TransAm that's been retrofitted with a race-level suspension. Whereas my girlfriend drives a Lexus RX300 and prefers a more car-like suspension and a smoother ride.
However it should also be noted that it wasn't a strictly apples-to-apples comparison because the Limited didn't have the Lux-2 so the seats weren't as comfortable, which would tend to add to the perception of a lower quality ride. On a side note, while the seat quality was noticeable in the front seats between the Limited and Overland, the back seats really seemed to show a difference. If you're going to get the Limited, I'd suggest seriously considering the Lux-2 package.
On the QL, the best I can say is that, at least based on the conditions under which I was testing, the QL seemed to give the firm/rugged feel I like while still providing a very comfortable ride, which is no small feat. And I felt reasonably confident that when I load it down with all of the heavy gear I often carry, it would still ride well, which is one of the biggest things I'm looking for in my next vehicle.
And the g/f mentioned that she thought the ability to lower it while parked would make it easier to load the kids into the car seats as well as load larger items into the back. Similarly I felt it would make it easier to get to the skis/snowboards/surfboards on the roof. And we liked the ability to have a slightly higher ride in slower traffic which lowered at freeway speeds. And since I've jammed the Explorer in deep snow several times and had to dig out the undercarriage to get the wheels back down on the ground I liked the idea of being able to ride pretty high in deep snow.
So for us - a definite win on the QL. I just hope that any issues that might come up can be covered under warranty. And I'm a bit bummed that the lifetime warranty can't be obtained for the diesel.
Originally Posted by mikie87
Were you able to notice a significant difference in the quality of the wood trim between the Overland and Limited? The dealer near me doesn't have an Overland, so I've had a hard time seeing an example of the difference other than pictures, which do little to highlight any difference in the level of gloss, grain pattern, etc.
Honestly, we both felt that if you weren't specifically looking for it, you wouldn't really notice the difference. If you're looking for it, you'll see the difference and I guess the Overland's wood could be said to look like it was slightly higher quality. But we were both "meh" on the differences. We certainly wouldn't choose one over the other based on the wood trim.
One thing I found interesting though, was as soon as we climbed back into her Lexus she sighed and said, "wow, what a difference - how soon until we can order the Grand Cherokee?"