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Re: 2014 GC 3.6L V6 enough?

Let's not forget how important it is psychologically to different people to have a particular engine. I'm fairly certain that the V6 would probably handle all my needs brilliantly, but having a V8 sounds more like "me".

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Well Bigshawn I got a funny story for ya, once I decided to look at the 14 and test drive one I was all smiles once I hit the gas, it was like night and day going from my 2012 Limited with v6 to driving the 14 hemi I test drove. My salesman rode with me so it was not as fun as driving by yourself but anyhow I was sold on the truck, once we got back he said to me with my wife there "How do u like it?" I replied I love the truck response off the line. It's definitely quicker, I wan't the Hemi for sure, that's when he said oh! Ummm that was a v6 overland. I walked back out to the lot and it sure was . With that being said this will not be my daily driver right now I still have a 02 dodge neon that just won't quit that I drive to work it's a 100mile commute everyday here in the Detroit area and working for the power company here some days I can get pretty muddy so that's another reason I don't drive my jeep to work. So here's what I did I ordered the Hemi eventho the v6 felt so quick compared to my current jeep which only have 4,050 miles on it but I won't drive my Hemi a lot anyhow so I got it. I hope this helps ya that v6 is no slouch paired with the new tranny u will b happy.
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Re: 2014 GC 3.6L V6 enough?

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It was better off the line because 8 speed has the real first gear, and more close spaced gears make it easy to keep the engine in the sweet spot, for a better midrange acceleration.

Grand Cherokee V6 overall gear ratios
......8 speed.....5 speed
1st.....16.25.........----
2nd....10.83.........10.98
3rd......7.24..........6.70
4th......5.76.........----
5th......4.45.........4.31
6th......3.45.........----
7th......2.90.........3.06
8th......2.31.........2.54

It's a similar story for the V8.
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Great point Bran it's definitely noticeable , that tranny should have been paired With the jeep in the first place.
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Re: 2014 GC 3.6L V6 enough?

"blem wit" that is that the V6 has a "sweet spot" that is 4000 rpm wide. Plus the TQ multiplication. I agree the 8 speed will be better in a tractor pull or up the side of a cliff but my plans do not include either.

Personally I just think a DOHC 6 feels better than a pushrod V8 but was infested with Jags in my yout & currently have five sixes and and one 8 (but that is a toy).
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Old 05-25-2013, 08:46 AM
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Re: 2014 GC 3.6L V6 enough?

Purchased a 2014 Overland last week - went into the dealership focused on a V8 and came out with the V6. We use the JCG for daily driving and we don't tow, really felt the V6 was more than enough power. I live at 5500ft and drive to 7500 quite often - no problem at all.
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Re: 2014 GC 3.6L V6 enough?

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It was better off the line because 8 speed has the real first gear, and more close spaced gears make it easy to keep the engine in the sweet spot, for a better midrange acceleration.

Grand Cherokee V6 overall gear ratios
......8 speed.....5 speed
1st.....16.25.........----
2nd....10.83.........10.98
3rd......7.24..........6.70
4th......5.76.........----
5th......4.45.........4.31
6th......3.45.........----
7th......2.90.........3.06
8th......2.31.........2.54

It's a similar story for the V8.
The 8 speed w/ v6 is now connected to a 3.45 rear. With the 5 speed it was a 3.09.
The 3.45 will keep the engine reving higher through all the gears. That improves towing capacity and give a little more umph off the line.

It's just the opposite for the V8. It now comes with the 3.09.



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Bigshawn.. here is my $.02.. The first 3.6 i drove was in a full sized 4x4 ram.. totally blew me away, couldn't believe how nice it was.. then i drove a jeep and HATED it.. i didnt know about the Econo button.. In econo mode it SUCKS hard.. in "sport" mode which should just be normal mode its great.. plenty of power and OK milage. I only drive around town im averaging 17.. and you just have to get into the habit of using the shifter to go in and out of econo mode..

You asked the wrong question though.. its the 8 speed you should worry about.. its the 1 single thing i hate about this vehicle..
Eco mode isn't the greatest but I want better fuel mileage and want to actually use all 8 gears without having to go 60. For us there is no way we were going to buy a 2013 v6, we drove 2 different Laredo X's and they were both flat out slow, I wanted a hemi and I still want a hemi, but the way jeep forces you into a limited to gt the hemi forced me into a v6, we don't regret it because it was the right choice. If I wanted to tow 7k I would just go buy a truck, but with the 8 speed I actually feel confident towing 5k,where I wouldn't trust the 5 speed to tow more than 1k, and even that was pushing it.
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Re: 2014 GC 3.6L V6 enough?

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The 8 speed w/ v6 is now connected to a 3.45 rear. With the 5 speed it was a 3.09.
I'm aware of it, but the overall gear ratios are much more useful.
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It's just the opposite for the V8. It now comes with the 3.09.
I meant to say that my quote stands for the V8 also.
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It was better off the line because 8 speed has the real first gear, and more close spaced gears make it easy to keep the engine in the sweet spot, for a better midrange acceleration.
Grand Cherokee V8 overall gear ratios
......8 speed.....5 speed
1st.....14.57.........----
2nd......9.71.........10.41
3rd......6.50..........----
4th......5.15.........5.79
5th......3.97.........----
6th......3.09.........3.47
7th......2.59.........2.60
8th......2.06.........2.32
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Re: 2014 GC 3.6L V6 enough?

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This is, without a doubt, the most civilized discussion concerning the V6 vs. V8. Keep it up. Simply test drive and decide. To each his own.
The favorite engine in my garage is probably the 2-cyclinder Boxer engines on my BMW motorcycles. BMW first produced this engine layout, coupled with a shaft drive, in 1923, and continues to make great motorcycles around this engine/drive layout to today. But, I digress...

+1 for what 2012 Summit says regarding "test ride, then decide".

I have all of three days on my V6 2014 Overland. But I drove it all over Virginia countrysides' back lanes on Friday, and I cruised in comfort from Washington DC to Chicago on Saturday. It's a wonderful fit for my current needs, and it got 23+ mpg on the Interstate ride to Chicago on 85 octane unleaded. I am coming from a 2002 Overland with the 4.7 High Output V8, a wonderful engine...but the gas mileage on the 2002 Overland sucks much. I also had Saab turbos of various models in the 80's and 90's, and I loved the "takeoff velocity" of those turbos...but the 2014 JGC V6 with that 8-speed transmission is really a beautiful and well-integrated combination.
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Re: 2014 GC 3.6L V6 enough?

I'm very happy with my V6 Overland as my daily driver. I generally drive in "D" with eco mode off. Nice balance of smooth power and fuel use. I don't tow much with the Jeep; I have a GMC 2500 HD pickup for that (and which I can't afford to drive much, given its terrible fuel mileage).

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OP I don't know how many miles you drive but I drive about 20,000/ year. I traded in an SUV with the same gas mileage as the V8 and I love not spending $75 or more on gas each week.
I do a lot of mountain driving and have little patience for slow drivers and the Pentastar passes them easily. The power comes on smoothly and predictably.
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