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Re: 2014 GC 3.6L V6 enough?

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You must have had one with the old 3.8.

The Pentastar has an amazingly flat torque curve.
Wow, that's interesting. Sure had power at low rpms, but it seemed right around 3500RPM's it would just get up and go, and rocket towards 5500 ish ( sending you back in your seat)... while remaining in the current gear?

Coming from the 4.0 litre I-6, that engine seemed to be a "steady" application of torque throughout the range of RPM's...in all four gears ( great if you had a chart for the old 4.0).

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Re: 2014 GC 3.6L V6 enough?

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Coming from the 4.0 litre I-6, that engine seemed to be a "steady" application of torque throughout the range of RPM's...in all four gears
Great way to describe it. Miss that engine, though looking forward to getting acquainted with the Hemi.
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Re: 2014 GC 3.6L V6 enough?

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Looks like it's starting to turn into a V6 vs. V8 thread
Yep. Again.

In all seriousness, unless you are towing something over 6200lbs, you do not NEED the Hemi - you just WANT the Hemi.

If the Penta was not sufficient, it wouldn't be the only engine offered on the Wrangler - which can get to just about any place any other vehicle on earth can get to.
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Yep. Again.

In all seriousness, unless you are towing something over 6200lbs, you do not NEED the Hemi - you just WANT the Hemi.

If the Penta was not sufficient, it wouldn't be the only engine offered on the Wrangler - which can get to just about any place any other vehicle on earth can get to.
Sufficient sure, but then again if your going that far, do the people really NEED a jeep? Or could a Dodge dart or a Chrysler 200 be sufficient? The fact is the while industry is driven by want, like the fact they have the 50k plus summit now, is all of the extra stuff needed? No, but people want it and will spend the money on it.
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Re: 2014 GC 3.6L V6 enough?

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Sufficient sure, but then again if your going that far, do the people really NEED a jeep? Or could a Dodge dart or a Chrysler 200 be sufficient? The fact is the while industry is driven by want, like the fact they have the 50k plus summit now, is all of the extra stuff needed? No, but people want it and will spend the money on it.
No way man, adaptive cruise control is definitely a NEED, not a want. What else are we supposed to do, pay attention while we drive?
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No way man, adaptive cruise control is definitely a NEED, not a want. What else are we supposed to do, pay attention while we drive?
Adaptive cruise control is VERY GOOD and I love it. Just came back from my usual Memorial Day trip (NYC to Hatteras) and I have to say that it if you use it makes you less tired.

Not impressed with MPG tough. Not entirely sure what I need to do to get advertised 24 mpg on the highway. The best I could do was 23. With only 1500 miles on the odo hoping that after engine breaks in will get more than that.
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Adaptive cruise control is VERY GOOD and I love it. Just came back from my usual Memorial Day trip (NYC to Hatteras) and I have to say that it if you use it makes you less tired.

Not impressed with MPG tough. Not entirely sure what I need to do to get advertised 24 mpg on the highway. The best I could do was 23. With only 1500 miles on the odo hoping that after engine breaks in will get more than that.
Agree on the ACC...

I have never seen a vehicle get peak mileage until it is over 6000 miles
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Re: 2014 GC 3.6L V6 enough?

Keep in mind that the EPA highway test is at an average speed of 48.3 mph, a max of 60, and with the a/c off. (and the real average for a 3.6 4x4 was 23.9 mpg).
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Keep in mind that the EPA highway test is at an average speed of 48.3 mph, a max of 60, and with the a/c off. (and the real average for a 3.6 4x4 was 23.9 mpg).
A ha... Was looking for the EPA highway mileage speed.... Knew it was low, Thanks!
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Re: 2014 GC 3.6L V6 enough?

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Sufficient sure, but then again if your going that far, do the people really NEED a jeep? Or could a Dodge dart or a Chrysler 200 be sufficient? The fact is the while industry is driven by want, like the fact they have the 50k plus summit now, is all of the extra stuff needed? No, but people want it and will spend the money on it.

Well I was actually referring to the capability between a V6 Jeep and a V8 Jeep. A Dart or 200 is a much better vehicle for commuting or daily driving, yes. But a Dart or 200 also cannot pull a 5000lbs trailer or drive off-road.

My point was that if the Pentastar is enough for a 4-door Rubicon, it is enough for a WK2 for almost every application, short of pulling something that weighs more than 6200lbs (or whatever the cutoff of the V6 is).

According to an Edmunds review of the 2013 Overland, the Hemi does 0-60 in 8.2 seconds, the Penta in 9.0 seconds. Truthaboutcars.com shows the 2013 Overland V8 reaching 60 in 7.22 seconds, but the point is that neither engine is particularly "fast."

Again, in my opinion, the V8 is needed if you are towing over the weight capacity of the V6. If not, it is simply a want. I don't think the V8 can get to many places that the V6 cannot get to (again, evidenced by the fact that the V6 is the only option in the Wrangler - which can go many places that the WK2 cannot). So other than towing, do you want to be slow (V6) or slightly not-as-slow (V8)?
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Re: 2014 GC 3.6L V6 enough?

Not impressed with MPG tough. Not entirely sure what I need to do to get advertised 24 mpg on the highway. The best I could do was 23. With only 1500 miles on the odo hoping that after engine breaks in will get more than that.[/QUOTE]

I have a V6 Summit and can get great mileage out of it. Try putting the mileage display in the EVIC screen and it will help you realize when you are efficient and when you are not. It becomes second nature. Currently I have about 1500 miles on it. I run with tire pressures at 40 cold. I don't have a heavy foot. Last trip of about 100 miles (air off) was 26 mpg and this included about 10 miles suburban with traffic lights. If driving was only highway/interstate, I would expect about 27. I am getting about 22.5 back and forth to work 5 to 7 mile trips. Lowest I ever get is 21.5 when encountering more stop and go due to traffic.
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Adaptive cruise control is VERY GOOD and I love it. Just came back from my usual Memorial Day trip (NYC to Hatteras) and I have to say that it if you use it makes you less tired.

Not impressed with MPG tough. Not entirely sure what I need to do to get advertised 24 mpg on the highway. The best I could do was 23. With only 1500 miles on the odo hoping that after engine breaks in will get more than that.
add 2-3MPG by shutting off cruise control.

Cruise control does whatever it takes to keep you at exactly the speed you set it at. Slow down 2-3MPH going uphill and prevent a downshift

I had 1,000 miles on my '14 v6 when i did a 600 mile road trip I averaged 25MPG with about 500 miles highway, 100 miles secondary roads. I'm a 65-75mph driver.
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