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Re: 2014 GC 3.6L V6 enough?

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Some of us care more about the cost. It's also about the environment.

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Haha, cost?environment? And you bought a 5500lb luxury SUV? Whatever makes u sleep better at night my friend!

Might as well enjoy that gas, your kids won't be able to afford it in 40 years
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Haha, cost?environment? And you bought a 5500lb luxury SUV? Whatever makes u sleep better at night my friend!

Might as well enjoy that gas, your kids won't be able to afford it in 40 years
I hear ya. It's all relevant. I'm getting rid of two cars in favor of the JGP, which is like a Prius compared to what I used to have, a lifted F150 Supercrew with a V8 that's chipped, lifted, with mudder tires and a supercharged Mustang GT with close to 600 hp.

My worldview about fossil fuels and the environment have been evolving slowly over the years. I don't have a JGC yet, but my plan is to wait for the CRD. I just hope I can hold out for its eventual release.

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It's funny to hear about all the effort people are putting into saving pennies when they just dropped 45-50k on their new rides. Just drive the damn thing fill it up when it's empty and focus your energy on getting over the fact you bought the v6 not the 8.

Gas is just a tax and you gotta pay if you wanna play.
Kids...

If owning a V8 makes you feel more grown-up, I'm happy for you. I personally don't need a large engine to prove my manhood.

The way I look at it...the less money I pay at the pumps, the more money stays in my pocket, and I just don't see a problem with that. I won't be towing much (if any...my tow hitch is used mostly for our mountain bikes), and my GC is a daily driver...so why would I need a V8 besides for bragging rights?
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.so why would I need a V8 besides for bragging rights?
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Old 06-05-2013, 07:54 AM
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Re: 2014 GC 3.6L V6 enough?

I bought the V6 but would prefer the V8 like most people on here. The power and especially the sound would be fun.

Do I "regret" getting the V6? Not one bit. Has plenty of power for me and I feel like any extra would be wasted on a 5,500 pound SUV that can't take off ramps faster than 45MPH...haha. The V6 is not fast, and the V8 isn't either.

Sure...another $100 a month in gas isn't going to make me miss a mortgage payment, but its $100 more a month I can put towards getting the '68 Camaro that I started restoring after college but sold so I could save for a house. Doing grown-up things is stupid :-)
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It's funny to hear about all the effort people are putting into saving pennies when they just dropped 45-50k on their new rides. Just drive the damn thing fill it up when it's empty and focus your energy on getting over the fact you bought the v6 not the 8.

Gas is just a tax and you gotta pay if you wanna play.
Yours is a great attitude to have, that is unless you plan on living a long life, retiring and investing wisely to live well when you do.

I've figured the cost difference between the two to be about $6000 over four years, since I drive a lot of miles. That's approximate and includes the capital cost of the option, the gas and of course the additional maintenance. Or about $125/ month.

Let's say that one makes sound financial decisions like this after graduating college at age 22, invests the money conservatively and wisely until he retires at age 65. A conservative yield is 7% although historically it's been higher. At that low rate of return the future value of that money is about $410,000. That will but me a nice little house in a leafy golf community around here.

That ain't "pennies".
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Re: 2014 GC 3.6L V6 enough?

What we got here is a failure to communicate! Can't we all just agree to disagree? There is no right or wrong here, just a difference of opinion.
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What we got here is a failure to communicate! Can't we all just agree to disagree? There is no right or wrong here, just a difference of opinion.
With THAT attitude, you're never going to win an argument on the internet!

You're right...there's no wrong decision, but I do enjoy hearing why people chose one over the other.
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Yours is a great attitude to have, that is unless you plan on living a long life, retiring and investing wisely to live well when you do.

I've figured the cost difference between the two to be about $6000 over four years, since I drive a lot of miles. That's approximate and includes the capital cost of the option, the gas and of course the additional maintenance. Or about $125/ month.

Let's say that one makes sound financial decisions like this after graduating college at age 22, invests the money conservatively and wisely until he retires at age 65. A conservative yield is 7% although historically it's been higher. At that low rate of return the future value of that money is about $410,000. That will but me a nice little house in a leafy golf community around here.

That ain't "pennies".
great post.


I took a different approach.

I'm moving somewhere where I'll be driving half as much which isn't saying much as I drive a lot. with the SRT, I figure I'll be saving about 4-5k per year on fuel with how much I drive normally.... That adds up.
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I've never, ever heard until today that turning off the cruise control gives you better gas mileage. It's been my experience (and every professional opinion I've heard or read) that using cruise control is the best way to obtain good fuel mileage. The fact that you're slowing down while going uphill sounds like a good tactic, but I wouldn't really place it under the general advice of "turning off cruise control."

And I have absolutely no idea how one might "coast uphill." ???

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Cruise Control will save you fuel if and ONLY you are on a plain flat level road/highway.

If it's a hilly road, then managing the throttle yourself is much more effecient. Cruise Control doesn't care about your MPG's, all it does is keep you at your desired MPH. So if you are going up hill, Cruise Control will down shift like crazy to high RPM's until it gets back to the set MPH. Also going down hill, the Cruise will refrain from letting the vehicle pick up speed (essentially engine braking) keeping it at the desired MPH which will cost you MPG on the way back up.

And yes, you can coast up hill. Like I said, if I am going down hill, I let the Jeep coast which will actually pick up speed maybe 5-6mph above the limit, then when I get to the up slope I coast up losing about 1mph every 100yards back down to my normal MPH I was cruising before. It's all about how you drive it.

To me this is a clear cut argument and I'm surprised how many people actually think Cruise Control is better on your MPG's. Again, unless you are on a flat level road, Cruise Control is in no way better than managing the throttle yourself. (unless of course you lead foot everything lol)
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great post.


I took a different approach.

I'm moving somewhere where I'll be driving half as much which isn't saying much as I drive a lot. with the SRT, I figure I'll be saving about 4-5k per year on fuel with how much I drive normally.... That adds up.
I look at it this way: Mashing the accelerator on the V8 will give me a thrill. If I had the V6, I would need to spend an additional $800/week on drugs and prostitutes to provide that same thrill. That equates to $94,750 per year, or about half a million bucks over the life of the vehicle, including inflation and interest.

My math might be a little shaky, I haven't slept in three days. If my GC doesn't arrive soon, I might go full-on John Belushi.
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Re: 2014 GC 3.6L V6 enough?

Notice all the 18 wheelers solw up hill and speed up down hill?

I tried this once in my old 4.7 WK on a rolling, gentle up and down, highway in rural Georgia. Put it in neutral down hill and left it in N until my speed dropped to 55 mph then held that throttle setting (slowing up hill), coasting down, etc. Raised my mpg from 15 to 18, a 20 % improvement but a lot of effort to do. Would reeally piss off the drivers behind you too.

This is (sorta) one of the hybrid tricks to get better mileage. With cruise on the electric motor can supply the extra oomph to hold speed up hill and the the computer shuts off the engine and recaptures the energy into the battery on the way down.
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