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2014 Gear Shift Confusion

It's almost as if people are scared or ashamed to admit they've have trouble using this shifter. Everyone that claims they've never had a single problem with it is totally full of shit, period.

I came clean about my minor accident the other week and with not being able to find reverse fast enough. I really don't see what the big deal is.

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Old 02-29-2016, 07:54 PM
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Re: 2014 Gear Shift Confusion

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It's almost as if people are scared or ashamed to admit they've have trouble using this shifter. Everyone that claims they've never had a single problem with it is totally full of shit, period.

I came clean about my minor accident the other week and with not being able to find reverse fast enough. I really don't see what the big deal is.

Any additional comments from the Mr and Mrs Perfects out there?
Honestly? Yes, there is a little learning curve to it. I got used to it on the first day and haven't had a problem with it since. But as I stated earlier in response to your accident post I can most certainly see where this shifter can be a problem.
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Old 02-29-2016, 08:12 PM
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Honestly? Yes, there is a little learning curve to it. I got used to it on the first day and haven't had a problem with it since. But as I stated earlier in response to your accident post I can most certainly see where this shifter can be a problem.
The entire point of having an automatic transmission is to not have ANY learning curve.





Is that too much to ask? **NOT directed to MDBones**
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Re: 2014 Gear Shift Confusion investigated by Feds

They did design, patent and bring to market the new polystable shifter for the 2016.


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Re: 2014 Gear Shift Confusion

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The entire point of having an automatic transmission is to not have ANY learning curve.

Is that too much to ask? **NOT directed to MDBones**
I actually don't have a problem with a learning curve. I'm old school and believe people should LEARN how to operate their equipment. I learned how to use the WK2 2014/15 shifter the first day.

My problem is the poor design of the shifter.

As your example showed "antsjeep" (post # 61), going from Drive to Reverse in an emergency situation using this shifter is a PROBLEM. Use too much force & end up in PARK. Use too little force & end up in Neutral. Requiring a person to either count multiple detents, notches, clicks, or to use a PRECISE amount of force to transition from DRIVE to REVERSE is a poor design that has and will continue to resulted to accidents.

And IMHO, ANYONE who claims to be able to shift from Drive to Reverse with 100% consistency, even in an urgent or emergency situation is either fibbing or is a damn actual Fighter Pilot. Normal folks have their Fine Motor Skills degrade during stressful situations.
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Re: 2014 Gear Shift Confusion

There seems to be two separate complaints that seem to be getting mixed up:

(1) Shifting in an urgent/panic situation or in a situation that requires constant drive to reverse etc. (rocking) that the shifter takes too much "exactness" when operating.

--- Fair enough. It does require a higher degree of exactness than other shifters.



(2) Shifting in general is confusing such as putting it in reverse instead of park (the most common complaint) or another gear than intended and perhaps getting out of the vehicle.

---- That I can't agree with. When selecting a gear to operate in a normal situation it is fine. I do it all the time without looking and have never counted the indents. To me, it is intuitive, especially going in and out of sport mode.



On an aside, let's face it, older people do get confused and plow into people at bus stops and through windows in strip malls. They get the pedals confused so no surprised they get the gears confused too and blame it on the shifter instead of themselves.
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Re: 2014 Gear Shift Confusion

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It's almost as if people are scared or ashamed to admit they've have trouble using this shifter. Everyone that claims they've never had a single problem with it is totally full of shit, period.

I came clean about my minor accident the other week and with not being able to find reverse fast enough. I really don't see what the big deal is.

Any additional comments from the Mr and Mrs Perfects out there?

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I don't think people are scared or ashamed. I think people are just giving their opinions and experiences with this shifter. I will admit it took me close to 15 seconds to learn this shifter which might be a little longer than it would normally take to get accustomed to a shifter. After that 15 second no I have not had any issues with it. Maybe I am just smarter or more mechanically inclined than the average person? Who Knows... but in the last 36k miles of driving I have not had an issue with it. This is just my experience. I am not saying others are not having a problem using it.
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Old 03-01-2016, 05:38 AM
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I don't think people are scared or ashamed. I think people are just giving their opinions and experiences with this shifter. I will admit it took me close to 15 seconds to learn this shifter which might be a little longer than it would normally take to get accustomed to a shifter. After that 15 second no I have not had any issues with it. Maybe I am just smarter or more mechanically inclined than the average person? Who Knows... but in the last 36k miles of driving I have not had an issue with it. This is just my experience. I am not saying others are not having a problem using it.

I learned how to use it almost right way too. But that's mainly my point here, we had to LEARN a new procedure on how to select gears in an automatic. Ive owned only 3 cars prior and never for a split second did i have to think about how to shift my automatic. Its understandable for a person to adapt to having a giant touch screen that controls everything, or basic switch placement on the door cards or console being different, but to expect people how to re learn a new procedure just to drive in automatic? That can take your average person time and when put in a panic/fast movement situation your going to have problems. You can't expect this shifter to go over well with out problems. It's getting to the point now where the physical shifter should be swapped for the newer style at the owners choice. I will admit that in the very beginning (in late 2013 coming out of an '08 WK for 6 years) I thought the new shifter was slick and modern. But after driving two of these WK2's over the past 2 years i can see where and why its problematic.

Scenario's like making a U-turn in live traffic, or even parallel parking can be daunting if not full focused. These types of situations cause the operator to have to double check gear selection or fall into the wrong gear (my case) and THAT'S what I mean by poor design and why people on here cant seem to admit mistakes they've made with this shifter.
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Re: 2014 Gear Shift Confusion

Glad to read this as i thought it was me,I have never felt comftable with the gear selector,cuple of times i have got out to open gates to find i had selected reverse instead of park.
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Re: 2014 Gear Shift Confusion investigated by Feds

This is the easiest shifter to use period, no offense but this is so easy a caveman can do it. Think of it as a electric switch which it is, hold it all the way forward and your in park all the way back is drive than just tap it back from park and your in reverse tap it again in neutral. Common sense jeepers!


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This is the easiest shifter to use period, no offense but this is so easy a caveman can do it. Think of it as a electric switch which it is, hold it all the way forward and your in park all the way back is drive than just tap it back from park and your in reverse tap it again in neutral. Common sense jeepers!


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Re: 2014 Gear Shift Confusion

Like I said, all y'all having issues with this shifter are morons who have no business driving in the first place. That includes me.

Now in fairness to me, I only gave myself two weeks and a thousand miles in a rental to get used to it. Maybe after another two weeks and two thousand miles I could have operated it with 100% confidence in the path of an oncoming train.

Don't want to have to find out. Glad they changed it. Looking forward to my '17. (Hope I can find the Sport mode button in an emergency ...)
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