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Old 02-19-2016, 09:57 PM
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2014 Gear Shift Confusion

So I just experienced first hand the fault of this shifter.

I was in a parking lot traveling down an isle and came to the end to stop. A car parked in the last spot on my passenger side decided to back out without looking or stopping. I laid on the horn for what seemed like minutes but was only maybe 5 seconds (if that) and quickly tried to get into reverse... And what do you know in my moment of panic I wound up in neutral and didn't get out of the way in time. We traded information, got a police report and went on our way.

The damage is mostly cosmetic. There is one or two deep gouges on the upper and lower bumper, a few other scratches and the gloss black fog bezel will need to be replaced. I'm hoping the damage will come out less than this ladies decutable so I can get the cash from and just fix everything on my own. She agreed that's if it was less than her deduct she'd give me the cash instead.

Just having a gated shifter, there would have been no chance of me missing reverse in those few seconds 😡

Yet another reason why this shifter is total shit!!


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Old 02-19-2016, 10:07 PM
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^^^^ agree it's the panic situations with that shifter, I got no problems with it day to day but a panic D to R to D for whatever reason often i fight with that R where I never would in previous cars.
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Re: 2014 Gear Shift Confusion

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"but FCA said it did so to increase customer satisfaction and not because of safety concerns"

I call total BS on this statement. They could careless about customer satisfaction. To me they only care about production numbers and being number one all the time.

On a personal level, there has been a few times i engaged the wrong gear (totally admit to it). The selector definitely can be tricky, especially for first time users or if your in a rush and don't pay enough attention. I would say this happens to me once a month on average. Not enough for me to complain about, but enough for me to think why they did away with the '11-'13 shifter and why they went to the new design for the 2016.

I think Chrysler should step up and offer a retrofit solution to install the 2016 gear selectors in the '14-'15 models (at the owners choice).


I totally agree. Since I've heard about this I have been hoping for a recall. I hate the e-shifter. I'm not sure why people are "confused" by it though like some articles going around the internet. It's not that its confusing its the fact that you can easily slip it into another gear. Its too laborsome also. Rocking it up and down is the silliest idea. When you're in a hurry, the old shifter was so much easier to use. I constantly put mine in Sport Mod unintentionally. If there isn't a recall I think Jeep should do exactly what the post I quoted says. I don't like the build quality on it either. I got mine in Nov 2014 and paint is already chipping away on the grip where the tips of your fingers rest when you are toggling it. Does anyone know if this would be under warranty?
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Old 02-20-2016, 10:09 AM
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I totally agree. Since I've heard about this I have been hoping for a recall. I hate the e-shifter. I'm not sure why people are "confused" by it though like some articles going around the internet. It's not that its confusing its the fact that you can easily slip it into another gear. Its too laborsome also. Rocking it up and down is the silliest idea. When you're in a hurry, the old shifter was so much easier to use. I constantly put mine in Sport Mod unintentionally. If there isn't a recall I think Jeep should do exactly what the post I quoted says. I don't like the build quality on it either. I got mine in Nov 2014 and paint is already chipping away on the grip where the tips of your fingers rest when you are toggling it. Does anyone know if this would be under warranty?

It just sounds like you don't know how to use a switch. That's basically what the gear shift is. I can't believe people can't grasp it lol
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It just sounds like you don't know how to use a switch. That's basically what the gear shift is. I can't believe people can't grasp it lol
I get the fact that you like this shifter and I do know how to use it. I don't think I would be able to put the 12k miles I have on my vehicle if I didn't grasp how to use it. My point is the fact that its way more laborsome. There is much more need to verify and re-verify if you are in the correct gear. This fact makes it more time consuming. For me, its more of just a pain than anything. I'm one of the ones who could get in my old Jeep GC and shift and not even look at it and know what gear it was. Maybe the people who have a love affair with this toggle shit are use to having to look and relook even on the older shifters. If you had to put it in another gear quickly for a quick maneuver I can guarantee its much faster on the old style. The only thing that would be worse than this would be a mouse and mousepad sitting there for you to look at the big screen and make shifting from that...
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Old 02-20-2016, 11:38 AM
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2014 Gear Shift Confusion

I definitely don't like the shifter. I think it's ugly and an awkward function. But I have zero issues using it.

I don't find it laborsome. It's two clicks to do the biggest change, park to drive. It would require more motion and movement with a traditional shifter. Maybe I'm not understanding you or your word usage is misleading what you're trying to get at.

Simply put, the gear shift works exactly like a window switch with the auto function. Very easy.
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I am not a fan of the shifter but most likely we are going to have a software update of some sort. Highly doubt they are going to replace it. Anyways, I am fully aware how to drive a vehicle but this shifter is verrrrrryyyy easy to not be in park when you want it to be. I put it in reverse once in my garage and started to get out. It almost hit the wall but I caught it in time.

And to those that "this wont ever happen" to, it will just give it time. Once you will think you are in park but you arent. Mistakes happen. No one is perfect.
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I definitely don't like the shifter. I think it's ugly and an awkward function. But I have zero issues using it.

I don't find it laborsome. It's two clicks to do the biggest change, park to drive. It would require more motion and movement with a traditional shifter. Maybe I'm not understanding you or your word usage is misleading what you're trying to get at.

Simply put, the gear shift works exactly like a window swift with the auto function. Very easy.
Sounds like YOU are either not very smart, are extremely arrogant, or just don't "get it".

Post # 61 above from antsjeep nailed the biggest issue most folks have with this shifter. And that is going from Drive to Reverse in an urgent situation. I use the 2-click method in increase my chances of hitting reverse but that isn't an intuitive method. In fact, its a step backwards from gated shifters.
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Sounds like YOU are either not very smart, are extremely arrogant, or just don't "get it".

Post # 61 above from antsjeep nailed the biggest issue most folks have with this shifter. And that is going from Drive to Reverse in an urgent situation. I use the 2-click method in increase my chances of hitting reverse but that isn't an intuitive method. In fact, its a step backwards from gated shifters.

You're sounding pretty arrogant right now. Tripping out over a conversation that didn't involve YOU lol having to push it two clicks for reverse isn't hard.

Now it's my turn. YOU sound like an obnoxious prick.
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You're sounding pretty arrogant right now. Tripping out over a conversation that didn't involve YOU lol having to push it two clicks for reverse isn't hard.

Now it's my turn. YOU sound like an obnoxious prick.
It has nothing to do with it being "hard".

Going from Drive to Reverse using the shifter on the 2014/15 WK2s can not be done with the same degree of reliability, consistency, or urgency has a gated shifter. There is a much higher chance of going into the wrong gear under those circumstances.

That means in an emergency or panic situation like the one "antsjeep" described in post # 61, a person driving a 2014/15 WK2 is at a disadvantage.

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It has nothing to do with it being "hard".

Going from Drive to Reverse using the shifter on the 2014/15 WK2s can not be done with the same degree of reliability, consistency, or urgency has a gated shifter. There is a much higher chance of going into the wrong gear under those circumstances.

That means in an emergency or panic situation like the one "antsjeep" described in post # 61, a person driving a 2014/15 WK2 is at a disadvantage.
While I haven't had any issues once I became accustomed to this shifter, I completely agree that there's a very high probability of not being able to hit the right gear in an emergency situation. That's something I never even thought about until Ants pointed out what happened to him.
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