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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

Back to colors, if the winter chill, and the brown are discontinued, I'm guessing that two more colors are inbound. Does anybody know which two? I would like to see a deep red, like a fire engine red. Like many others I'm patiently waiting for the 2014 mainly due to the 8 speed tranny. I'm also leaning toward the Max Steel color. Does anybody have that color? is it as bad as black to hide dirt, or is it a little better. I think mixed with the chrome hooks and wheels it would look really good.
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Who's ready for a 2016 thread? Wait till you guys here some of the new stuff for 2016.

I would be interetsed in a 2017 thread... get me pumped for the new body style... lol... As far Max Steel wk2hopeful it hides dirt fairly well for a dark color. The only place the dirt really shows is on the hood after a nasty rainfall. If this helps any I went from Bright SIlver Metallic to Max Steel and still just wash the Jeep once a week and i'm very anal about how clean my car is.
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Thanks everyone for all the info. It happens I'm looking at a new vehicle soon, and the MY14 features have put the JGC at he top of my list. I've previously owned a '99 WJ QD and loved it.

I know this is a news thread more than a feedback thread, but I figured it couldn't hurt to offer a couple of things.

Many of the features that cause me to be interested in the JGC are already here (QD, v8, HID headlights, tow IV), but the MY14 is attractive to me because:

- 8 speed with the v8 for better gas milage and better performance (this is really big for me)
- 8.4" integrated nav radio console (nice but not critical. but looks like it makes a nice clean interface)

There are lots of little things that sound nice, but the 8 speed really is the key. That said, I have two "wants":

- Please, please, please put the ELSD back in the front of the QD configuations! Please! Have I mentioned, please?!
- Please make the side and forward collision warning systems standard or at least optional on all models w/o bundling them with a bunch of other things.

My likely choice will be a limited with 5.7, 8 speed, nav, tow IV, ORA II.

Again, thanks for all the info everyone!

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The starting pricing stated a couple posts ago is wishful thinking, but that's abt it.
To be clear, the starting pricing that I was speculating on would only apply IF dodge kept the Durango along side the Waggy. According to rumors, Chrysler won't keep both, but of course we have no real idea.

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...in order for the GW to have a chance, it'd have to be above the market of those who'd buy a Summit, but below those who can afford a $160k Maserati.
Well, I disagree, because if the waggy is 3 rows, it would sell to a different class of shopper than either the Summit or Maserati. In my opinion a 3 row Waggy is not really competing with either the Summit of Maserati...just because it's the same platform, doesn't mean they are competitors.

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But how many ppl choose [the Durangp] over a GC. Apparently not many...
I am. The GC is not a consideration for me at all because it only has two rows, so I did not even consider the GC. It's going to be a GM Lambda, or the Durango for me. (Or Waggy if it is imminenet about this time next year.)

In other words, I do not see a lot of cross shopping between a 3 row SUV and a 2 row SUV. There is much more more cross shopping among 3 row SUVs , 3 row crossovers and dare I say it...minivans.

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...the WK kills the WD here at home too!
Sure, but IMO that is a consequence of the WD not competing well with the GM Lambdas, Mazda CX-9, explorer, etc. The durango simply doesn't compete with the GC. So relative sales numbers between the two don't mean a whole lot.

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If they introduced it as a competitor to the QX, Escalade, Navigator, and so on, I cant say I'd be surprised. Anybody following me...?
Sort of. I can only really speak about my experience as a consumer and other anecdotal evidence that lots of others shop the same way. That is, the vehicle I'm looking for is:

1) A "people and stuff" mover. I require 3 rows of seating, and want to be able to put at least "some stuff" behind the 3rd row when its in use.

2) No "real" off road capability needed.

3) Zero or only limited towing.

4) Available AWD (for inclement weather on paved roads.)


This leaves 3 row crossovers, 3 row SUVs, and minivans as the classes of vehicles that are compete against one another for my money. For most people, the Durango does not compete well in this category, hence the relatively poors sales. Apparently, Chrysler believes that a 3 row Jeep would be more successful than a 3 row dodge....which is why they would drop Durango and introduce Waggy.
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

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Waggy is still a ways away.

I don't think it will be luxury-only oriented. I can see it being a 3 row Grand Cherokee with a different body. Chrysler isn't stupid.
Hopefully not too far away, or at least not for from the release of some preliminary info. Heck, Sergio said "You'll see it in January 2013."

I started my SUV search with my sights set on a three row; then I heard about the '14 JGC. If the Grand Wagoneer info was released, and I didn't feel it was worth the price or wait, I would probably buy the GC immediately. Until GW info comes out, my checkbook will remained closed.
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Hopefully not too far away, or at least not for from the release of some preliminary info. Heck, Sergio said "You'll see it in January 2013."

I started my SUV search with my sights set on a three row; then I heard about the '14 JGC. If the Grand Wagoneer info was released, and I didn't feel it was worth the price or wait, I would probably buy the GC immediately. Until GW info comes out, my checkbook will remained closed.
And this is exactly what I was talking abt. A consumer considering the GW and the GC.. Hmmm...
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

@joeyD..
I have some of the same requirements and in 2010, I bought the Enclave. The Buick is nice, however there are many design issues IMO. I was given a v6 Durango for a rental in early 2012 and I loved it. It gets better fuel economy and was much nicer to drive. I think the Durango was just not a good vehicle for so long, that it has taken a long time to swing that opinion. In any event, I would imagine the updates to the Durango would make it a leader in the segment. A name change however might be the only solution.
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@joeyD..
I have some of the same requirements and in 2010, I bought the Enclave. The Buick is nice, however there are many design issues IMO. I was given a v6 Durango for a rental in early 2012 and I loved it. It gets better fuel economy and was much nicer to drive. I think the Durango was just not a good vehicle for so long, that it has taken a long time to swing that opinion. In any event, I would imagine the updates to the Durango would make it a leader in the segment. A name change however might be the only solution.
The Durango was at the top of my list for a while, but I want the ability to pull a travel trailer and the gas mileage since I drive roughly 18,000 a year for work (mainly city). Therefore, the V6 or V8 was difficult decision. A diesel Durango would have solved my problem completely, but that isn't happening.

That's why I'm seriously considering ditching the 3rd row, and going with the GC. However, the GW could solve all my problems, which is why I want to know more about it before I make any decision.
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I have some of the same requirements and in 2010, I bought the Enclave.
@chevyboy_711

See...this is what I'm talking about. No GC in the equation.

Seriously though, I don't mean to imply that there is no cross shopping between GC and Durango. However, I'd bet that there is less cross shopping between the GC and Durango, as opposed to say, the Durango and 3 row crossovers like the Lambdas, Honda Pilot, For Explorer, etc.

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Yup...that pretty much sums up my assessment of the models I test drove. The Durango is a better driver and it's more fully featured...but the Lambdas have more interior room (for both people and stuff).

Which brings me back to the Wagoneer...based on some info in this thread, the Wagoneer might actually be an "extended length" durango... (hence more room). This theoretical Wagoneer would be the perfect choice for me. I hope we hear some official news about it early next year (NAIAS?)
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@JoeyD... Read the next post after QuickOne.
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Again, this is a useless debate.. Bc the daily build is reflective of what ppl want. And I highly doubt a simple brand and name change without attacking a different segment (as suggested) will do much for sales. 7 seat SUVs aren't agile off-road beasts like their mid-size siblings, and the reality is more ppl care abt capability, rather than seating. Those who DO care more abt seating tend to look for more styling and interior features and are willing to pay for it. But I digress.. You win.. Irdc abt being right.
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