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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

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Looks like order date change was made Friday afternoon... new tentative date is January 9th.
Hmm, just a week ahead of Detroit. Makes sense..
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

Is there any information about the (hopefully reduced) 2014 JGC 3.0 Diesel CO2 output, as a result of 8-speed and may be other fuel-saving measures)?

Next year I am to buy my new 2014 JGC in France, where they have this Eco-Malus system. At the JGC's present CO2 output rate of 218 g/km, the French government would impose an one-off tax of about USD7,500 on top of the car's dealer price!!! Fortunately not an issue for you US guys but an issue over here for a JGC fan.

If the 8-speed results in 14% less diesel consumption (which I read in this forum somewhere), the CO2 production rate might fall below 190 g/km, which would reduce this tax to about half.

Appreciate any information. May be our forum friend Milous knows?
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Old 11-18-2012, 08:33 PM
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

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Looks like order date change was made Friday afternoon... new tentative date is January 9th.
Maybe things changing has something to do with the conflict between ordering and reveal, and things being a tad bit behind schedule. We have 2 more scheduled pilot days, which is typically on Sundays, yet 1) there's nothing scheduled for this upcoming Sunday, which leaves only one more before Dec. 5, and 2) honestly, things haven't been going as smooth since this new shift started. Doesn't seem like we're making up any ground on old orders, and we're running out of time.

So regardless, I guess it works out better this way. Those ordering a '14 won't have to wait as long after placing an order to SEE or RECIEVE their truck.
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Old 11-18-2012, 09:42 PM
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....Doesn't seem like we're making up any ground on old orders, and we're running out of time.
...and you still have well over 400 pilots left to build...
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

guenik the co2 output is/will be lower than the current international version. I don't have the numbers on me, but it was in the 11-14% area.

A little birdie tells me the Jan. 9th date is also a tad premature. The focus right now has been on the viper and getting the new upfit facilities up and running...speaking of JNAP....
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...and you still have well over 400 pilots left to build...
See that's crazy, bc last Sunday they had us come in for 12 hrs, to build a whopping 42. lol.. We had enough parts to do maybe 100-150, but all they wanted was 42. Providing that number (400) doesn't include the few built throughout the week, it is doable in abt half a shift. But we're still waaay behind on '13s! Which still happen to be priority. And from where I sit, it's not getting any better. We need all 3 "crews" working at least 6 days in order to catch up.
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

according to my sources thats one reason for the delay to the order banks. Now....they didnt come out and tell me that...but they did mention how popular the gc and gc SRT are here in the US and especially export. They are getting requests to open the banks for 13' orders.....
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They are getting requests to open the banks for 13' orders.....
You mean to reopen them?.. I figured that would happen. As I've said before, most of the Jeep world doesn't know jack abt the '14, and are content to settle on a '13 bc they don't know what they're missing. It's popular on here for obvious reasons, but walk into pretty much any dealer, and all they seem to know is, "ummm, I hear its getting the 8spd and a bigger nav unit." And most don't know that much! Which makes ppl want what they KNOW they like now.. Hence the sustained demand for '13s.
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Milous can you comment on his message stating diesel not til late 2013? That is also different from the Q2 delivery I have been expecting...

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That's key to me too. I don't care about order dates but delivery. And if production for the diesel starts later that would be a downer for me. I kind of expect that the information is correct as the other part of the post was correct as well. So if this is confirmed does this apply to export diesels as well? As the export diesels are slightly different from the US diesel and key in export markets I can't believe that Jeep would not be able to deliever vehicles for months! And my dealer also told me that he can no longer order a diesel for me.
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That's key to me too. I don't care about order dates but delivery. And if production for the diesel starts later that would be a downer for me. I kind of expect that the information is correct as the other part of the post was correct as well. So if this is confirmed does this apply to export diesels as well?
It does not apply to export diesels, they would really be in trouble if they couldn't deliver them until later in the year.
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according to my sources thats one reason for the delay to the order banks. Now....they didnt come out and tell me that...but they did mention how popular the gc and gc SRT are here in the US and especially export. They are getting requests to open the banks for 13' orders.....
If the plant is already to capacity/backlogged I don't know that reopening the banks would help the situation, seems like it would make it worse. Dealers had plenty of advance warning of the order close date (as they do every year), and were directed to order enough inventory to last into March. Now maybe allocation came into play and dealers did not get enough orders in, Pat would be better qualified to answer that. As long as production isn't moved back, the change of the order open date would have a negligible impact on those awaiting the new models. But nothing is 100% certain until it happens, better to not break out the champagne until the first '14 retail model rolls off the line.

The Jeep SRT has been a bona fide hit worldwide, it will be well into the '14 model year (or beyond) before they are even close to meeting the demand.
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It does not apply to export diesels, they would really be in trouble if they couldn't deliver them until later in the year.
So MY14 US CRDs now wont be delivered until Q4 2013? This is gutwrenching news....

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