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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

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Well done guys, I look forward to taking the keys of my new Summit in late March and driving her accross country (my dealer is trying to arrange for me to fly out, pick her up at the factory, and drive her back home... to Seattle).
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Old 12-03-2012, 05:16 PM
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Speaking of Post accident, ugh... I'm temporarly driving a Fiat 500. How am I supposed to climb on the curb at work with this thing?

If you do it at a high enough rate of speed... "spectacularly".
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Old 12-03-2012, 07:47 PM
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Having grown up in Jeeps (First a 79 CJ5, then a 84 CJ7 and finally a 86 CJ7) as a kid, I always loved them.

As a kid in college, I full filled a dream to own my own and bought a 97 ZJ.

Drove that until I bought a 04 WJ (and then had the fun of explaining why the Jeep ALWAYS shimmied under braking).

Drove that until my current 09 WK (in which I still have to explain to folks why it shimmies under braking).

It's in the stable with my other toys, and I gleefully look to replacing her with my "Big Boy Toy" with my order of a 14 WK2 Summit CRD.

I've been watching in the last couple years as you all went through hell and back. Going from my WJ to the WK was like a huge step back (lots of cheap plastic and bits that didn't fit well together). I nearly wrote you all off... right up until I saw a 2011 WK interior about a year ago.

Looks and feel like my Merc in the inside, but can climb a damn tree and ask "What's next?".

It's great coming to this forum and seeing the guys that BUILD these rigs taking such pride in them and as excited as we are for them.

I will note, this beast will be doing double duty at my house, replacing not only my 09 WK, but also my Merc (give me room for my 48 Willy I'm restoring)

Imported from Detroit.... indeed.

Well done guys, I look forward to taking the keys of my new Summit in late March and driving her accross country (my dealer is trying to arrange for me to fly out, pick her up at the factory, and drive her back home... to Seattle).

P.S. Also now a paying member of this forum now (I've lurked long enough, figured I should tip in, given how many times I've hit the F5 button...)
Wow! You're the definition of a true die-hard. And I can tell you personally I wouldn't blame you if you left in the Diamler days. Things are A LOT different now. Fiat is obsessed with quality. You'd be surprised at how many fully assembled bodies get scrapped and crushed each week, bc they don't meet the standards. Now 10yrs ago... lol

And that'd be cool if you do get to make it out here and drive it back. My girl and I were actually in Seattle earlier this year, and one thing we noticed is the lack of American cars out west. We rented an '11 RT Challenger (of course it was orange) from Hertz, and everywhere we went ppl were looking like they'd never seen one. So thx especially to you for supporting, considering most out there don't. I promise you won't be disappointed. If you are, I'll let you drive mine back to drive while you shop for sumn else..
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

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You've got that right buddy. Maybe Milous is even more methodical than I thought. I don't get paid for this, but I'm beginning to think more and more that maybe he does. If not, Jeep is missing out on one hell of a marketing guy, that's for sure! This thread is quickly approaching 300 pages, and with just under 2 months to go, I wouldn't be surprised if it squeaks past 400.

This is gonna be one hell of a launch. When the '11 WK first launched ppl around there were just grateful to still have a job. But now there's thousands more ppl working in the plant, and there's an aura of pride, (although we're still very humble). And we're all just as excited abt what's coming out of JNAP as you guys. It's good to see so many new Jeepers out there, including myself. Thx for all the support guys and gals..
Our buyers' thanks and appreciation go to you guys for building a great product for our enjoyment! So glad that Chrysler made it through, last not least thanks to your efforts.
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:19 PM
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Our buyers' thanks and appreciation go to you guys for building a great product for our enjoyment! So glad that Chrysler made it through, last not least thanks to your efforts.
We're working on that last part..
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Lets pretend they are releasing a supercharged version in white. How much of a premium do you think they would charge? Is there an existing platform in the line up that we can compare it to?
If that were the case, and I'm not saying it is, it'd probably be around $10k above the rise in price for a non-SC'd one. (But again, I'm not confirming or denying that this is even the case right now.)

And no, there isn't anything in the platform to compare it to. Closest thing would probably be Overland to Overland Summit. But I don't see this as an accurate equivalent.

But stay tuned..
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

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Wow! You're the definition of a true die-hard. And I can tell you personally I wouldn't blame you if you left in the Diamler days. Things are A LOT different now. Fiat is obsessed with quality. You'd be surprised at how many fully assembled bodies get scrapped and crushed each week, bc they don't meet the standards. 10yrs ago... lol

And that'd be cool if you do get to make it out here and drive it back. My girl and I were actually in Seattle earlier this year, and one thing we noticed is the lack of American cars out west. We rented an '11 RT Challenger (of course it was orange) from Hertz, and everywhere we went ppl were looking like they'd never seen one. So thx especially to you for supporting, considering most out there don't. I promise you won't be disappointed. If you are, I'll let you drive mine back to drive while you shop for sumn else..
I can relate to that guy. I started driving Jeeps as a kid back in 93! 85 XJ, 89 XJ, 92 XJ, 96 XJ, 98 ZJ, 00 WJ, 02 WJ Overland, 06 WK Ltd..then went to Toyota 4Runner and BMW for nice weather ride. My XJs (other than the 85 POS) were great vehicles and got me through harsh ND winters when I was stationed there. The Grand Cherokees all had their share of problems. Every single one of them had diffs rebuilt at low miles. My 06 WK had the front axle assembly REPLACED and rear diff rebuilt at 7500 miles (after months of calls and letters complaining). My 02 Overland needed $5000 worth of warranty work in one month. Blend doors, both axles, rain sense module, seat heater etc. all with 40K miles. The WK was a turd. Cheap interior, uninspired styling but I bought it to stay with the brand. After the probs with trans, diff, MDS stutter I said F it and bought a new 08 4Runner. No probs with the 4Runner but it was an appliance. Then I boughta 2011 4Runner which was a POS and dumped it with like 9K miles, luckily I traded it on my 2012 WK2 and got within $500 of what I paid. I was glad to see Jeep building quality stuff. I am your target buyer. A long time Jeep owner that was fed up and went Japanese. I took a huge gamble going back to Jeep but its been a great truck at almost 13K miles. I love all the features on the Laredo X and the Selec Terrain etc. All of this being said, I never blamed the American WORKER but the cheap azz corporate heads that used cheap suppliers, inferior parts to maximize profits. The worker can only assemble what is given to him. I also think the service dept needs a LOT of work still compared to Toyota and nobody will ever touch BMWs level of service...it is outstanding. Anyway, I hope the service dept gets better and I hope corporate does not get greedy again and starts decontenting. Toyota is going through that now and my 11 4Runner was an example of a car company that got too big and too greedy. Feel free to pass on my story to the company and employees.
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Eyes that move [Marlon]. Would be a real treat for my GC 2014 Overland CRD to be ordered hopefully soon. Had a BMW 5 GT rental recently in Europe, and the adaptive lighting was great (although I worry about what could go wrong with all these sensors and little motors).

Any knowledge whether the "eyes that move", if they indeed come, would be in the export Overland models for France?

I'll be buying in France, where up to now there is the Overland version but no Overland Summit version. The French Overland version does however have all the goodies normally, so I hope it will have the adaptive lighting as well.
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Both of my wife's vehicles have had this feature. Never had an issue. One was an Rx330 and now the Buick Enclave. It's cool. But I don't see it as something to worry about failing. If it stops moving/working, you might not even notice. And in both cars there is a way to turn the feature off. I have no idea about Chrysler/Fiat's version but its not rocket science.
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Jim Press, the guy that used to be at Toyota - I believe he was one of the quality control guys, I could be wrong for once, resigned around 2007. I recall an interview I read or heard about him predicting that Toyota would pretty much start crapping the bed because they started cutting corners. That's why he quit. I think then he came over to Chrysler. Not sure if he's still around there or not. Maybe Ralph took his job. Ask Marlon or Chevyboy- they seem to be buddies with him but have yet to reveal any true evidence of that.

I still have a 1994 Toyota 4x4 pickup 22RE engine with about 250K on it. That thing is seriously bullet proof! I don't think I'll ever get rid of it!
My 2005 4Runner (in my pic) saved my life so I can't complain about that year at all.

Hey Temerarius, let me know when you're driving through. If you're going to take 94 through Chicago and Wisconsin and then into Minnesota I can suggest a great restaurant or two in St. Paul that serves up great grub and an excellent pint! I can even join you to check out your new ride. I'm about 20 minutes from St. Paul. You know, the capital of the STATE OF HOCKEY...not just any old hockeytown. HA!
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"a supercharged version in white" - Supercharger and direct injection - you want a diesel.
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

Well for my first post I just want to thank everybody who contributed to this thread thus far. Tons of great information! Called my dealer to inform him that I would be placing an order for a '14 as soon as posible. It will be my first Jeep, and I'm pretty excited.

One question, are there any changes to the suspension that would effect installation of the current offerings of leveling spacers or lifts? RRO or other brands. I am guessing no, but thought I'd ask.

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