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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

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Posting from mobile for the first time so I hope this shows up right, also haven't been online much due to a newborn so sorry if other real world shots have been added already. Saw a '14 Limited in the parking lot of a local mall today, it was not wearing dealer plates! I didn't get to snap a pic or investigate the interior too much due to a embarrassed wife but it did have a screen smaller than a 430n. Attached the only 2 pics I could snag.


This looks like the parking lot of Patridge Creek on M-59. I see Brio in the background there. ... If so, I think I seen that car out that way the other day while doing some last minute Christmas shopping. Good post..

Anyway, so.. Abt the car.. Looks like a base Limited. Lacks chrome. Base headlights. Most of the test cars have the other lights. Didn't know ANY Limited would get these. But fyi; Those are the ones I've seen recently on (US) Laredos.
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

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would be great if someone can post a picture of this white '14 right next to a 11/12/13 photo at a similar angle so we can directly compare. ( i don have the magic)
Robo_70, I followed your suggestion. Please see attached file (first time I attach something, hope it works).

With polite words, it is very, very difficult to understand what Jeep is doing here. Jeep is actually downgrading their premium product at least in its prime impression (exterior front) to the next lower product (Compass).

It is not that the Compass and now the new GC front design features are ugly. It is only that the GC 2012/2013 had its unique face, with its bold grille, whereas now the face is more or less the same like the Compass. Sure, the GC is still a different car in size and fittings but on a first glance it is the Compass face. Also agreed that the SRT had already the "Compass type" grille design. However the SRT is a very different type of animal, and would not so easily be mistaken for a Compass.

May be Jeep wants to have this as the new and only face for the GC family, because the Compass is said to be discontinued in 2014 I believe. Nevertheless, in my humble opinion it is a bad move. Personally, I am very fond of the GC MY2012/2013 design and would have bought my first GC this year, if the old tranny and the old navi would not have been so outdated.

I do not believe that Land Rover would suddenly design the Range Rover to look like the LR2 (Freelander). Land Rover has unified design features across Freelander-LR2/Discovery-LR4/Range Rover. They brought premium features to the lower range models, without losing each models identity. Thus lower range models were upgraded without downgrade of the premium segment.

Chrysler/Jeep is doing the opposite. They are bringing lower range features into their premium product, blurring their premium product's identity. Large mistake I believe. It even drives me to rethink whether I want to buy a "Grand Compass". I would assume that I am not the only one who is reconsidering his options.

I'll wait to see whether the GC Summit version of my choice (black/black or black/brown) retains enough own character to let me overcome my disappointment with Jeep's downwards design evolution.

One might say what are you talking about - it is only the grille. I would say you are right but a loss of identity bears weight in an already too much "equalized" design world.

Really not so happy but still willing to give Jeep a chance! Sorry for my long post.
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

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chevyboy, Appreciate all of your responses. What did you think of the Overland interior in Black with the Moroccan sun wood trim? Is the stitching on the dash and middle console white? What exactly color is Moroccan sun? Also, do you think the lower fascias and fenders of the Overland or the Summit looks better?
Honestly man, I hadn't paid much attention to it. I do believe that stitching is white. I'll be sure to get you specifics next week when we go back, bc right now I have no research to do.

Copper-ish dark brown. (Kinda like this frozen rock I have in my glass right now! )

Summit.. Hands down! Not to take anything away from the Overland, but the Summit is a horse of a different color.. There's really no comparison btw the two... And with that, @wap2012, the reason Canada may not have gotten Summit's in the past could be purely marketing NAME wise.. However if they offered Summit features on the Overland these past few years, yet didn't offer the Overland Summit NAME, essentially those cars are Summits. Any Overland you see up there with the matching dash, chrome grille and mesh, and chrome fog-light bezels, IS a Summit. I believe this happened in Europe too.. But with so much being different btw 'em for '14, I see NO reason why everyone won't get both. The issue this time around could be Limited-to-Overland.
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

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Robo_70, I followed your suggestion. Please see attached file (first time I attach something, hope it works).

With polite words, it is very, very difficult to understand what Jeep is doing here. Jeep is actually downgrading their premium product at least in its prime impression (exterior front) to the next lower product (Compass).

It is not that the Compass and now the new GC front design features are ugly. It is only that the GC 2012/2013 had its unique face, with its bold grille, whereas now the face is more or less the same like the Compass. Sure, the GC is still a different car in size and fittings but on a first glance it is the Compass face. Also agreed that the SRT had already the "Compass type" grille design. However the SRT is a very different type of animal, and would not so easily be mistaken for a Compass.

May be Jeep wants to have this as the new and only face for the GC family, because the Compass is said to be discontinued in 2014 I believe. Nevertheless, in my humble opinion it is a bad move. Personally, I am very fond of the GC MY2012/2013 design and would have bought my first GC this year, if the old tranny and the old navi would not have been so outdated.

I do not believe that Land Rover would suddenly design the Range Rover to look like the LR2 (Freelander). Land Rover has unified design features across Freelander-LR2/Discovery-LR4/Range Rover. They brought premium features to the lower range models, without losing each models identity. Thus lower range models were upgraded without downgrade of the premium segment.

Chrysler/Jeep is doing the opposite. They are bringing lower range features into their premium product, blurring their premium product's identity. Large mistake I believe. It even drives me to rethink whether I want to buy a "Grand Compass". I would assume that I am not the only one who is reconsidering his options.

I'll wait to see whether the GC Summit version of my choice (black/black or black/brown) retains enough own character to let me overcome my disappointment with Jeep's downwards design evolution.

One might say what are you talking about - it is only the grille. I would say you are right but a loss of identity bears weight in an already too much "equalized" design world.

Really not so happy but still willing to give Jeep a chance! Sorry for my long post.

nice work on the pic. But...when the Compass was introduced everyone said it downgraded the 11' GC because they looked so much alike. Now everyone is saying the 14' GC is downgraded becasue it looks like the 12' Compass. They are strikingly similar! LOL.
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Robo_70, I followed your suggestion. Please see attached file (first time I attach something, hope it works).

With polite words, it is very, very difficult to understand what Jeep is doing here. Jeep is actually downgrading their premium product at least in its prime impression (exterior front) to the next lower product (Compass).

It is not that the Compass and now the new GC front design features are ugly. It is only that the GC 2012/2013 had its unique face, with its bold grille, whereas now the face is more or less the same like the Compass. Sure, the GC is still a different car in size and fittings but on a first glance it is the Compass face. Also agreed that the SRT had already the "Compass type" grille design. However the SRT is a very different type of animal, and would not so easily be mistaken for a Compass.

May be Jeep wants to have this as the new and only face for the GC family, because the Compass is said to be discontinued in 2014 I believe. Nevertheless, in my humble opinion it is a bad move. Personally, I am very fond of the GC MY2012/2013 design and would have bought my first GC this year, if the old tranny and the old navi would not have been so outdated.

I do not believe that Land Rover would suddenly design the Range Rover to look like the LR2 (Freelander). Land Rover has unified design features across Freelander-LR2/Discovery-LR4/Range Rover. They brought premium features to the lower range models, without losing each models identity. Thus lower range models were upgraded without downgrade of the premium segment.

Chrysler/Jeep is doing the opposite. They are bringing lower range features into their premium product, blurring their premium product's identity. Large mistake I believe. It even drives me to rethink whether I want to buy a "Grand Compass". I would assume that I am not the only one who is reconsidering his options.

I'll wait to see whether the GC Summit version of my choice (black/black or black/brown) retains enough own character to let me overcome my disappointment with Jeep's downwards design evolution.

One might say what are you talking about - it is only the grille. I would say you are right but a loss of identity bears weight in an already too much "equalized" design world.

Really not so happy but still willing to give Jeep a chance! Sorry for my long post.


Guennik --Good work on the line up picture.. I am with you on your thoughts about it being a down graded look. I guess over the next few weeks we will see more leaks and I am sure (hope) they will inspire more confidence.. I was very keen on white but now may need to reconsider for something like mineral grey.
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First post: - New: Headlamps with LED DRL's (Limited/Overland/SRT8). PS...
That information was and is still correct... when posting advance lists of features, I don't always differentiate between what may be Standard, Optional, or part of a group package on a particular model. One reason is that early on such decisions are not always finalized, and are often changed around (of course major features like engines/tranny's etc. are finalized way ahead of time).

If known for certain that something will most likely not change, I will whenever possible mention it - as I have done along the way with several features on the Summit and SRT models (i.e. headlamp washers and RA4 radios being Standard).

Upon further research it appears that the LED DRL's on the Limited models (U.S. market, exports may vary) will be part of a package - grouped with other features, essentially making them "Optional". And the way Chrysler groups packages sometimes, it could end up that more often than not the Limited builds would end up having the LED DRL's. For the export markets it appears that LED DRL's are going to be Standard across the board.

I've done this in the past, and probably should do it for this thread - that is, add a notation at the top of the first post that states "Certain new features may not be available on all models/trimlines, or may be optional or part of a package".

Also keep in mind that there are Fleet models roaming around out there that are sometimes stripped of certain features and options.
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Now I'm just a little worried as to what the production startup date will actually end up being...
While they keep playing around with the order bank date, as of right now there has been no changes in the start of production date .
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

As someone who may not be typical of Jeep Garage members, but more typical of the general public, I think the 2014 GC looks good.

I currently am not a Jeep owner. My only Jeep was an '07Liberty Limited which was great, except for being a little small. So, when I look at the pictures of the '14 GC, I'm not making comparisons to other model years are other Jeep models. Standing on it's own it is a good looking SUV, although it might not stand out as unique when sitting among the ubiquitous SUVs and cross-overs at the local mall.

The Jeep grill, even the new one, does make it recognizable as a Jeep, even to me ... member of the general public. Until I joined this forum, while I instinctively recognized a Jeep as a Jeep, I was unaware that the grill design had such a history. So, it could be that the new design is aimed more at the general, non Jeep owning public than at the Jeep enthusiast. The design might increase sales since not everyone wants to look at their car and think 'aggressive'. Those who know the Jeep Grand Cherokee, or like me are learning about it, will buy if for it's performance.

My biggest gripe with the '14 is the lack of deep cherry red. I can get past that.
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

Only 9 days now to its official launch and dealers still know nothing. Was speaking to a dealer today and he had no idea the Summit was coming to Australia. He is only aware of a MY14 Overland which was, up until now a Summit anyway. It carried all the fully loaded benefits of a Summit other than the full Chrome Grille here in Australia. When I informed him we will have two top Models....an Overland and now a Summit he had no idea. That can't be good when we are only 9 days away from its public release. Chrysler Australia should be more helpful. I pity some unsuspecting buyer purchasing an MY13 this close to its public release. Previously in these posts someone said "buyer beware" but how would they know unless they come across this site for example. To me "ethics" if everything. It should come before a salesmans commission. The ethical thing to do is to inform the prospective buyer of what is about to happen and then give them the choice of what they want to buy. I would be really "cut up" if I purchased an MY13 9 days out from the public release of the MY14.
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Only 9 days now to its official launch and dealers still know nothing. Was speaking to a dealer today and he had no idea the Summit was coming to Australia. He is only aware of a MY14 Overland which was, up until now a Summit anyway. It carried all the fully loaded benefits of a Summit other than the full Chrome Grille here in Australia. When I informed him we will have two top Models....an Overland and now a Summit he had no idea. That can't be good when we are only 9 days away from its public release. Chrysler Australia should be more helpful. I pity some unsuspecting buyer purchasing an MY13 this close to its public release. Previously in these posts someone said "buyer beware" but how would they know unless they come across this site for example. To me "ethics" if everything. It should come before a salesmans commission. The ethical thing to do is to inform the prospective buyer of what is about to happen and then give them the choice of what they want to buy. I would be really "cut up" if I purchased an MY13 9 days out from the public release of the MY14.
Hi Webber... I think it's part of the plan. If they told everyone about the new "you beaut" model that is just around the corner, then they could not move the old stock. Right now in Aust the dealers are getting RRP for the JGC diesel and there is still waiting lists ! 99% of punters are oblivious to the 2014 model and dealers think you're on something when you tell them what you know...
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Guys,

when we have a launch of a top new model, the Dealers also know nothing till official premier of the car.

So be patient...
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Hi Webber... I think it's part of the plan. If they told everyone about the new "you beaut" model that is just around the corner, then they could not move the old stock. Right now in Aust the dealers are getting RRP for the JGC diesel and there is still waiting lists ! 99% of punters are oblivious to the 2014 model and dealers think you're on something when you tell them what you know...
Hi Robo.....all I can say is, "Does that make it right" and would you like that done to you. You can see why Car salesman are right down the bottom when it comes to ethics. I actually think they would sell more cars if they were honest, and they would build their integrity. Ok, they might have to discount the car...BUT THEY SHOULD, don't you think? Imagine buying a car today or on January 8th and then in the paper the next day the adverts start running with "run-out prices". I just cannot accept unethical behaviour.
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