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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

Pat, I've got a question that's been bugging me for a while now, and perhaps you can't answer it and if not, I understand.

In the Prices Paid master thread, I've seen a lot of WK2s go for a couple thousand below (which ends up being a good deal below 1% under invoice) what Edmunds reports as being the invoice price for the same vehicle. I also see a lot of WK2s listed on cars.com for a couple thousand below what Edmunds reports as being the invoice price.

How does this work? Is it one of those things where you have to finance with the dealer and be eligible for all of the bonus cash and rebates that are available (and it ends up turning out that most people don't qualify), and it has to be at the "right time" when Chrysler is offering the dealer some a kickback if they sell X vehicles in a month, or...?
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Thanks! I wonder, do Drive-Away/pre-spec units include sold orders?
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I plan on joining Tread Lightly too, unless someone knows of a good alternative that's not quite as expensive ($100) to join? I imagine all of the ones listed in Pat's PDF end up giving you the same discount as the others, too...
I figured that although we don't yet know pricing, whether I order the Overland or Summit, it will still be a plus for me. In addition is the hope that they may actually do some good preserving the places I want to drive.
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

Many, many thanks to all on this thread, especially Milous, Scott, Marlon, Pat and Chevy (where r u, Chevy?)----as of this morning, I have now joined this site as simple way to properly express my gratitude....step 2 will include the purchase of my new 2014 Jeep GC Summit (hopefully CRD if I can wait that long). Thanks again to all.
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

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Is this a Webinar that we can view as well?
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

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By "drive aways" do they mean the individual customer orders?
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Pat, I've got a question that's been bugging me for a while now, and perhaps you can't answer it and if not, I understand.

In the Prices Paid master thread, I've seen a lot of WK2s go for a couple thousand below (which ends up being a good deal below 1% under invoice) what Edmunds reports as being the invoice price for the same vehicle. I also see a lot of WK2s listed on cars.com for a couple thousand below what Edmunds reports as being the invoice price.

How does this work? Is it one of those things where you have to finance with the dealer and be eligible for all of the bonus cash and rebates that are available (and it ends up turning out that most people don't qualify), and it has to be at the "right time" when Chrysler is offering the dealer some a kickback if they sell X vehicles in a month, or...?

Most likely it's a little bit of both reasons. One some may qualify for extra rebates like lease loyalty/lease conquest/military/realtor/affiliate rewards/vw owner bonus cash/ other regional incentives.
If a dealer is close to hitting their quota then they might sell for a lot less knowing they might lose $1000-$2000 on that one deal but will gain thousands by hitting that quota. And yes usually if a dealer is giving a killer deal on the front end he's making it back on the back end.

Here's my opinion and since it doesn't have to do with head lights I probably won't strike a nerve with anyone. Chances are the new GC will count toward the dealers quota but it won't pay any extra money. So if you can go in and not have to negotiate from MSRP and can let the dealer keep all of his holdback when honoring the 1% under invoice then it should be a win win for both. Yes the dealer gets reimbursed 2% for any of the AR programs. So basically if the dealer gives you 1% under invoice then the dealer will break out 1% above invoice. Out of that the dealer pays some hourly worker to detail it, hopefully spends the $100 to fill the gas tank and pays the salesperson a "mini comission" of $100(industry average). when all said and done dealer nets about invoice, keeps all of the holdback.
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The webinar is for dealers only and no the drive aways won't be customers orders.
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

I paid $4000 under invoice on my 2007 Jeep. There was a $3500 rebate, plus at that time all veterans got a $500 rebate. It wasn't something special for me, but it would have looked pretty good on Edmunds web site.
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As usual, much appreciated Pat.

Regarding the second response, so I imagine then that drive aways/pre-specs become part of dealer stock.
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Do the Overland and the Summit headlights look the same since the Summit headlights have the adaptiv lights feature?

that LED bar looks Photoshopped LOL..
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As usual, much appreciated Pat.

Regarding the second response, so I imagine then that drive aways/pre-specs become part of dealer stock.

Correct, the factory builds a bunch of Jeeps and when we go to these events we all drive one back to the dealership. I did the 2013 Ram drive away event in St Louis last year, almost all of the trucks were the same 2 colors with the same options. Chances are it will be the same for the GC. Each business center will have one of these events.
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