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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

Looks like we're not the only ones having trouble containing our excitement. Thanks for the early tidbits Milous! These were all the key info I was waiting for (mileage, power, packages).

I think I'm understanding the packages, but just in case I'm missing something, is there any way to get Quadra Drive II but not have Quadra Lift (on a Limited)? I don't need adjustable ride height and I'd rather not have the potential long term maintenance liability but I do want the features of QDII.
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This may be a stupid question, but would the performance/ acceleration/ overall driving experience of the 3.0 L be more comparable to the 3.6 L V6 or the 5.7 L V8? I'm really interested in the diesel but have never owned a diesel vehicle before.
with the 8 speed the acceleration will be better, probably in the order of 0-60 mph in around 8 sec.. currently about 8.5 in the Australian version we have.

For many American guys who have not discovered the wonders of diesel , the driving experience is a little different than gas/petrol, what I mean by that is the diesels don't rev hard, in fact redline is about 4500 rpm, but they use the huge torque that is available low down to get moving.
they are much nicer to drive in traffic as you can put along with minimal effort, sort of feels like a big V8 that wont rev beyond 4000 but they are so easy and effortless to drive once your used to it. Unless you just want to drag race and brag about 0-60 times ( in which case buy a sports car or an SRT8) the diesel isa better proposition than the petrol. Diesels are far more economical than petrol also. Better for towing and better off-road as you have higher compression ratio so can descend slower (last point not so relevant now days in cars with all the electronic gadgets and hill decent control)
Its to the point here in Australia if you buy a petrol SUV you will have trouble selling it and diesel outsell petrol same in Europe
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

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Looks like we're not the only ones having trouble containing our excitement. Thanks for the early tidbits Milous! These were all the key info I was waiting for (mileage, power, packages).

I think I'm understanding the packages, but just in case I'm missing something, is there any way to get Quadra Drive II but not have Quadra Lift (on a Limited)? I don't need adjustable ride height and I'd rather not have the potential long term maintenance liability but I do want the features of QDII.
Me too!
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This may be a stupid question, but would the performance/ acceleration/ overall driving experience of the 3.0 L be more comparable to the 3.6 L V6 or the 5.7 L V8? I'm really interested in the diesel but have never owned a diesel vehicle before.
It will blow the 3.6 out of the water. 0-60 time should be 6.8-7.1 seconds. It will put out more Torque than a 1995 Dodge Cummins Diesel with twice as many gears.

My current vehicle is a 2011 Touareg TDI. Specs are almost the same 3.0L CRD, 8 speed, 5000 lb weight. Mind boggling fuel economy. Pulls like a freight train. Go Diesel!
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How cranky will Chevyboy get working quadruple shifts? I think it might get very entertaining!
Hardly.. I still fix cars on my off days, and before work some days. I can't remember the last time I worked a mere 40hr week. Even when we were working 6-7 days, 12-16 hours, I still made time to make other money. I've even driven my pops' semi to work a couple times bc I didnt have time to go home after a run.. I know what it's like to go without, and struggle just to get by. This is Detroit ya know.. Economy ain't that great round these parts. But I swear I'll never be broke again. So if Chrysler wants to go back to giving us 30-40hrs a week OT, I'll be the last guy to complain.

Hell one year I was in there the day before Christmas break, and they cut the lights out on me bc they didn't know anyone was still there. Skilled trades had even left already! So contrarily, more hours means a HAPPIER Chevyboy! (I'll sleep when I'm dead.)
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It will blow the 3.6 out of the water. 0-60 time should be 6.8-7.1 seconds. It will put out more Torque than a 1995 Dodge Cummins Diesel with twice as many gears.

My current vehicle is a 2011 Touareg TDI. Specs are almost the same 3.0L CRD, 8 speed, 5000 lb weight. Mind boggling fuel economy. Pulls like a freight train. Go Diesel!

The only problem for me is the timeline. Seems like we are looking at May timeframe for delivery best case scenerio. Realistically probably will see the truck in my driveway in June/July.

Wonder how much more will CRD cost and when will we know this. Would not be suprised if the numbers will not be known closer towars March / April timeframe.
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with the 8 speed the acceleration will be better, probably in the order of 0-60 mph in around 8 sec.. currently about 8.5 in the Australian version we have.

For many American guys who have not discovered the wonders of diesel , the driving experience is a little different than gas/petrol, what I mean by that is the diesels don't rev hard, in fact redline is about 4500 rpm, but they use the huge torque that is available low down to get moving.
they are much nicer to drive in traffic as you can put along with minimal effort, sort of feels like a big V8 that wont rev beyond 4000 but they are so easy and effortless to drive once your used to it. Unless you just want to drag race and brag about 0-60 times ( in which case buy a sports car or an SRT8) the diesel isa better proposition than the petrol. Diesels are far more economical than petrol also. Better for towing and better off-road as you have higher compression ratio so can descend slower (last point not so relevant now days in cars with all the electronic gadgets and hill decent control)
Its to the point here in Australia if you buy a petrol SUV you will have trouble setting it and diesel outsell petrol same in Europe
The problem I have with diesels (and I own an F-250 7.4 liter turbo) is the additional expense upfront, for maintenance (twice as many oil/filter changes) and repair, just doesn't seem to offset the fuel savings for a passenger vehicle. My F-250 carries the freight (camper) plus trailers and it does so in a way the V-10 might do but at a substantial additional expense so it is probably worth it. Not to mention that diesel passenger vehicles (DPVs) are probably the reason that diesel is no longer less expensive than gasoline.

In my opinion the Hemi Jeep does it for about the same price if you consider all these factors, up front cost, maintenance, and repairs. So why not go with the Hemi if it's faster, quieter, and smells better.
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Looking forward to seeing the tail lights on the SRT
Not much difference.. Just a tinted look. I can't remember if it has a black bezel inside that gives the smoked look, or if the lenses are actually slightly tinted. But physically, there's no difference from the rest.

What you want to see on the SRT, is the drastic difference in shifts. Remember we're going from 5 to 8. And the acceleration is crazy! (Not that I would know.. )

I've driven each of the (now) 3 SRT GC's, and although most of the '06-10s were modded, this one accelerates quicker and shifts smoother than the others. It's ALWAYS in the right gear.
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The only problem for me is the timeline. Seems like we are looking at May timeframe for delivery best case scenerio. Realistically probably will see the truck in my driveway in June/July.

Wonder how much more will CRD cost and when will we know this. Would not be suprised if the numbers will not be known closer towars March / April timeframe.
This is my hesitation too. I was going to buy a car in June but heard the 2014 would be an early release. If I end up waiting for the diesel (which is what I THINK I want), then that means I buy in May / June, which isn't all that early after all.

Another question I have along these lines -- is the diesel that's being sold in the US the same as what's being exported? If so, will the exports already have started shipping before they start selling CRDs in the US? I ask because I generally prefer not to buy the first production run so if they've already gone through months of production for the export market, then by the time the first US CRDs hit the lots here, they'll already have all the kinks worked out (if any).
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

Hey everyone. I found this page a few days ago and want to thank everyone for the great info.

I'm a complete car/truck/suv noob and by extension an even bigger noob when it comes to diesel. Will there be extra maintenance/care required for the diesel model if used in colder climates?
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The problem I have with diesels (and I own an F-250 7.4 liter turbo) is the additional expense upfront, for maintenance (twice as many oil/filter changes) and repair, just doesn't seem to offset the fuel savings for a passenger vehicle. My F-250 carries the freight (camper) plus trailers and it does so in a way the V-10 might do but at a substantial additional expense so it is probably worth it. Not to mention that diesel passenger vehicles (DPVs) are probably the reason that diesel is no longer less expensive than gasoline.

In my opinion the Hemi Jeep does it for about the same price if you consider all these factors, up front cost, maintenance, and repairs. So why not go with the Hemi if it's faster, quieter, and smells better.
Yeti, in the US where petrol is cheaper and still popular its easier to stick with petrol I agree. I am just comparing markets, here in Australia the resale value of petrol v8 SUVs plummets and you loose far more over the lifetime ownership of the car in comparison to the slightly higher maintenance costs of a diesel. i suspect its the same in Europe, in fact petrol SUVs in Europe are probably a rare thing Gigi_boy can probably comment.

As you can see in my avatar I enjoy a 750HP blown petrol V8 while i still can !!! but for my family Bus / SUV its got to be diesel
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