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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

Question regarding my Summit buy or not-buy decision:

I like driving small & narrow roads & tracks but I am not a real off roader. I may negotiate some sand passages, muddy or rocky forest tracks, or a shallow creek crossing. However I would be totally scared by and would never drive something like Black Bear Pass or manage steep slopes like shown in the youtube LandCruiser "crawl control" videos, other than in an emergency

Normally I would like to have all off-road features & helpers just to have them in case I might need them although I may never use them. There is probably also something of a male "off-road want it all" attitude in the background. It's about having fun, right?

Now Jeep dictates what I am allowed to have, by taking the hill ascent/descent feature (Selec Speed Control) and the tow hooks away from the Summit. If I would want those I would have to take an Overland. However with an Overland I would loose the adaptive headlamps as well as the Harman 19 speaker system, which would have real daily usage potential. I also like the Summit exclusive interior & exterior trims.

Forget about the tow hooks. Question to you off-roaders: Is the Selec Speed Control really a useful performance feature, especially for an offroad-lite guy like me? Or could I simply do the same by using my own brain, hands, and feet to operate accelerator & brake pedal, by virtue of the still substantial off-road features of the Summit?

Thanks for your opinion and sorry if this is a dumb question.

I guess I should be perfectly fine and equipped way over my head with the Summit off-road capabilities. In such case - contrary to my earlier post - GOODBYE OVERLAND, WELCOME SUMMIT!

I will be so happy (and my wife even more) when I have finally arrived at a decision and made my order. She is patiently coping with me sitting each early morning in front of this forum and scanning the latest news and tidbits.
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Old 01-12-2013, 02:21 AM
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

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Milous, I've seen both the 18" and 20" wheels on both the Limited and Overland.. Just for clarification, are you saying the 20" 5 spoke wheel with the painted pockets will be standard on the Overland, and most likely an option on the Limited. And the 18" wheel will be standard on the Limited, and will no longer be installed on the Overland?
1. Standard on Limited / Optional on Overland:

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2. Standard on Overland, Optional on Limited:

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3. Standard on Summit

Satin clear coat 20-inch twin five-spoke aluminum

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Old 01-12-2013, 03:35 AM
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

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Question to you off-roaders[/B]: Is the Selec Speed Control really a useful performance feature, especially for an offroad-lite guy like me? Or could I simply do the same by using my own brain, hands, and feet to operate accelerator & brake pedal, by virtue of the still substantial off-road features of the Summit?
People went off-road long before there was hill descent control and Selec-Speed. I have hill descent control on my X3 and rarely use it. I'm not sure I even trust it very much. In sum, it might be nice to have Selec-Speed but it sure is not necessary. (Our Wrangler Rubicon doesn't have it and we have no problems off road.) Look at this from Jeep.com: Explore Jeep Capabilities | 4x4 Off Road Guide | Jeep,
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

3. Standard on Summit

Satin clear coat 20-inch twin five-spoke aluminum




Damn these look nice. I have the chrome 20's on my 11 Overland and would HAVE TO GET THESE!

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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

Milous, is my whole excitement about the lack of Selec-Speed Control for the Summit obsolete?

In your post #1 list you show "- Selec-Speed Control (with Hill-ascent and Hill-descent Control)" without any restriction for any model. Is this a missing reference in your list, or has Selec-Speed Control indeed become standard also for the Summit contrary to earlier indications?

The latter would make sense to me, especially if the Summit is to approach other top off-road cars like the Land Rovers. Land Rover would not downgrade their luxury versions in this respect. It certainly shouldn't be a cost factor for Jeep. It is probably more expensive to take it off then to leave it in. Ascent/descent control you even find today as standard on small AWD mid-size cars. Me personally, I may not need it but Jeep should have it in the Summit.
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

Isn't SelectSpeed only available on the CRD?
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In your post #1 list you show "- Selec-Speed Control (with Hill-ascent and Hill-descent Control)" without any restriction for any model. Is this a missing reference in your list, or has Selec-Speed Control indeed become standard also for the Summit contrary to earlier indications?
The system still shows it as an option for Limited and Overland only...
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Isn't SelectSpeed only available on the CRD?
All engines.
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

Has anyone heard the HK 19 speaker Radio system compared to the regular one on the Overland? Also, some people say "wheel locks" are a waste of money. Looking at the new available wheels, sure looks like extra security might be a good idea if it makes sense. Thanks!
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

Are these new colors available to see on any current Chrysler products? Granite Crystal Pacific Blue True Blue Auburn ??
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1. Standard on Limited / Optional on Overland:

Satin chrome 18-inch twin five-spoke aluminum





2. Standard on Overland, Optional on Limited:

Polished 20-inch five-spoke aluminum, Mineral Gray-painted pockets

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3. Standard on Summit

Satin clear coat 20-inch twin five-spoke aluminum

... Sounds like we're on the same page. Now.. What would make this even better would be, in say 6 months, them offering the standard Overland wheels with body-color painted pockets, instead of mineral gray. Sumn like the old Liberty Renegades. A special edition Overland (in maybe 2 or 3 colors) would help distinguish it as its own trim IMO.. I think that'd look pretty spiffy. You guys will see what I'm talking abt when he posts pics of that wheel.
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Some of the best press images I have seen from Chrysler. A Many of them were taken in San Francisco.
Wait, what? Was I sleeping or something? I didn't see any new Jeeps rolling around town. Maybe I should have looked a little closer as to what was being filmed when I saw a film crew. Darn.
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