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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

Just curious what other people's opinions are on the rear Blu-ray. Losing 1/2 the center storage sucks, but I'm not sure I like the way the screens were done either. OTOH, I've only seen that one pick in the brochure, but it looks not well integrated and aftermarket in my opinion.
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Old 02-02-2013, 03:11 PM
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It's on this forum and at least one person got it I think. Sno hasn't been around that long and doesn't have a WK2 yet. But he will soon.
I'm not saying I've never heard of it, I'm just saying I think only certain people have seen it on the 2014. Yes I haven't been on the site that long but not new to jeep as I had a 97 and 01 GC Laredo
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I'm not saying I've never heard of it, I'm just saying I think only certain people have seen it on the 2014. Yes I haven't been on the site that long but not new to jeep as I had a 97 and 01 GC Laredo
Go figure. I had a green 97 Limited and a red 01 Limited.
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First time poster here.
On The CRD GC, does anyone know if the Diesel Exhaust Fluid (DEF) holding tank has a sensor to read the amount in the tank?
For the overseas poeple - in the earlier diesel power GC, did you have a DEF tank and if so how often did you need to refill it?
By the way - for people that may what to know, the DEF fill is under the fuel fill door next to the capless fuel fill.
Welcome Lugnut5..

Currently the CRD does not have the DEF ( a.k.a. Piss tank), its only being introduced on the 2014 to meet laws in the US.
I assume like the Merc BluTec it would have some sort of warning if its low.

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Like other larger turbodiesels in America, the ML must carry a large onboard tank of urea crystals in mineralized water, in a solution typically branded as AdBlue or DEF, for Diesel Emissions Fluid. The solution is automatically injected into the hot exhaust stream. Fluid vaporizes into carbon dioxide and ammonia, which enters a catalytic converter to turn smog-forming nitrogen oxides, a bane of diesel engines, into harmless nitrogen and water.

But fans of diesel powertrains have complained on Internet forums about high prices for replacing the urea solution. Consumer Reports received an eye-popping $317 dealership bill to refill a Mercedes GL-Class with about 16,500 miles on the odometer. That included $241 for 7.5 gallons of solution, which worked out to $32 a gallon.

Nor can owners simply keep driving their diesel after the juice runs dry: the E.P.A. thought of that, too, and it has required models to shut themselves down after a certain number of starts if owners ignore low-fluid warnings. Each gallon of solution is good for about 1,500 miles, and Mercedes recommends topping off during regular 10,000-mile service visits.

A Lower-Cost Filling Solution for the Mercedes-Benz ML350 Bluetec - NYTimes.com
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

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Welcome Lugnut5..

Currently the CRD does not have the DEF ( a.k.a. Piss tank), its only being introduced on the 2014 to meet laws in the US.
I assume like the Merc BluTec it would have some sort of warning if its low.

extract of some article;
Like other larger turbodiesels in America, the ML must carry a large onboard tank of urea crystals in mineralized water, in a solution typically branded as AdBlue or DEF, for Diesel Emissions Fluid. The solution is automatically injected into the hot exhaust stream. Fluid vaporizes into carbon dioxide and ammonia, which enters a catalytic converter to turn smog-forming nitrogen oxides, a bane of diesel engines, into harmless nitrogen and water.

But fans of diesel powertrains have complained on Internet forums about high prices for replacing the urea solution. Consumer Reports received an eye-popping $317 dealership bill to refill a Mercedes GL-Class with about 16,500 miles on the odometer. That included $241 for 7.5 gallons of solution, which worked out to $32 a gallon.

Nor can owners simply keep driving their diesel after the juice runs dry: the E.P.A. thought of that, too, and it has required models to shut themselves down after a certain number of starts if owners ignore low-fluid warnings. Each gallon of solution is good for about 1,500 miles, and Mercedes recommends topping off during regular 10,000-mile service visits.

A Lower-Cost Filling Solution for the Mercedes-Benz ML350 Bluetec - NYTimes.com

Im sure jeep dealers will try to markup the fluids simarly...it is a somewhat unknown product that most people will pay the upcharge for without questioning it. The fluid is available elsewhere...for example Walmart has it for $14 for 2.5 gallons.

BLUEDEF Diesel Exhaust Fluid, 2.5 gal: Automotive : Walmart.com
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

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Welcome Lugnut5..

Currently the CRD does not have the DEF ( a.k.a. Piss tank), its only being introduced on the 2014 to meet laws in the US.
I assume like the Merc BluTec it would have some sort of warning if its low.

extract of some article;
Like other larger turbodiesels in America, the ML must carry a large onboard tank of urea crystals in mineralized water, in a solution typically branded as AdBlue or DEF, for Diesel Emissions Fluid. The solution is automatically injected into the hot exhaust stream. Fluid vaporizes into carbon dioxide and ammonia, which enters a catalytic converter to turn smog-forming nitrogen oxides, a bane of diesel engines, into harmless nitrogen and water.

But fans of diesel powertrains have complained on Internet forums about high prices for replacing the urea solution. Consumer Reports received an eye-popping $317 dealership bill to refill a Mercedes GL-Class with about 16,500 miles on the odometer. That included $241 for 7.5 gallons of solution, which worked out to $32 a gallon.

Nor can owners simply keep driving their diesel after the juice runs dry: the E.P.A. thought of that, too, and it has required models to shut themselves down after a certain number of starts if owners ignore low-fluid warnings. Each gallon of solution is good for about 1,500 miles, and Mercedes recommends topping off during regular 10,000-mile service visits.

A Lower-Cost Filling Solution for the Mercedes-Benz ML350 Bluetec - NYTimes.com
I have a Mercedes 3.0L Diesel I love in my RV pictured above. It has the Def tank that is fairly easy to self fill every 10,000 miles or so. I have found 2.5 gals container of Def to run $9 to $12. This works out to be 1/10 of a penny a mile and improves mileage, so I'm told. Some truck stops now have def pumps as this is the new trend. The def low warning lights start about 1,000 miles to empty on my model. The diesel engine has great pickup and go in my 12,000 lb. RV and averages 15-17 mpg which is great compared to my diesel-pusher RV. The Big RV has a Cat 350 and gets 7 mpg by solo or towing a 5,000 lb toad.

The above picture of the Bread Truck was taken in The Rockies at 12,500 feet. My RV (I call it the Bread Truck) didn't blink an eye at that height even though Beer oozed out of the caps in the frig and potato chip bag blew up. BUT, diesel is price penalized in the south with a 25% premium. My Jeep (if I can get my colors) with be a 3.6 thought as I don't need towing power!
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NAPA has it for the same price as well.
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

Most members are not in Australia and probably wonder what mix of options and vehicles we had available 2012/2013. We had 4 models Laredo, Limited, Overland and Srt8. The only option packages were Luxury group(power liftgate, heated steering wheel, fancy media centre) on a Limited. Off-Road Adventure Group II on all but Srt8 and Rear DVD Entertainment on all but Laredo. The ORAGII was good value. Quadra-DriveII, ELSD, 3.45 ratio, 18 inch wheels and all the skid plates underneath for about $500.
Our Overland was very well equiped with the adaptive cruise, blind spot, FCW, Quadralift, etc.
I had ordered an Overland with ORAGII which is very similiar to the Summit which did not come to Australia.
I have enjoyed watching this thread develop.
About Adblue the 2011/2013 CRD in Australia did not have Adblue. However, it is available as a number of trucks/busses already use it in Australia.
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Dunno if I would be satisfied with 65 miles on my new vehicle! j/k
If any new vehicle I was purchasing came through with anything more than 10 miles, I would have them order me a replacement NEW vehicle.
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The ones with up to 65 miles are those selected for the Customer Satisfaction Audit.
If by Customer Satisfaction Audit, you mean some sort of extended testing, I'd be happy to see 65 miles on my car.

Just be sure to empty the ash trays.


In fact, if my car was built Monday, after all the Super Bowl parties, I would really want somebody to check it out.



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65 miles testing my car would not bother me. All part of quality control.

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Just curious what other people's opinions are on the rear Blu-ray. Losing 1/2 the center storage sucks, but I'm not sure I like the way the screens were done either. OTOH, I've only seen that one pick in the brochure, but it looks not well integrated and aftermarket in my opinion.
Optional CD in the console between the seats also looks squeezed in, almost aftermarket or after thought. This very well might be a deal breaker. Sorry, Jeep.
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