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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

Planning on a well optioned Limited and also planning to take it off road to places where skid plates would be handy.

This is mostly camping and hunting in the northwoods of Wisconsin, nothing like the Rubicon but I have been crossed up teetering and banged a few boulders with less than ideal wheel placement.

All I can say is, after having to suck the front diff oil out of my current truck through the fill hole because I banged the pumpkin on a boulder just right to permanently crimp the drain plug in place... I want the skidplates even it they never hit anything...
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

Chevy - I will not be taking my Overland anywhere where I might damage the body or paint. Too beautiful for that. However, I have bottomed out my SUV on washed out gravel roads in Maine and have had one tire hanging out over a cliff in Arizona while trying to work through a washed out ditch. I have hit rocks under snow on dirt roads in Colorado. My Overland is no Rubicon but I do like to go where the average sedan isn't going. For the first time, I have skid plates and feel a little safer on a planned trip in Utah.

Thanks for all the info you and the others have been providing. I have learned a lot.

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Old 02-14-2013, 02:16 PM
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

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No offense, and this obviously isn't aimed at anyone in particular, but I question how many ppl who'll buy an optioned out mid-size SUV actually do anything remotely resembling "serious off-roading."

Maybe it's just me, but where I come from, "serious" off-roading means gutted interiors, aftermarket beadlock wheels, tires that wouldn't last 20k miles with anything more than occassional highway use, steel bumpers with winches, and obviously the "my truck is bigger than yours" lift kits. However, I have seen some stock-ish ride height Wranglers and GC's hold their own on the trails, so you guys are fine there..

But seriously, how many of you guys looking at Overlands and Summits, and even loaded Limited's, plan on taking them "off-road" more than once every blue moon?.. I find in my observations that those who are overly concerned with built in off-road ability, never use it, and those who really do live on the trails, don't care what the factory installed, cause they'll strip it off for aftermarket stuff anyway. But hey - that's just where I come from.. To each his/her own.

I'll completely agree with this. I'm buying a '14 Overland because I find it to be the best vehicle in its price range to:

1. Have the luxury feel and amenities close to my Lexus IS350
2. Tow my snowmobile trailer
3. Get my "soon to be much bigger" dog off the leather...she will have a new home in the cargo area
4. Handle any snow/mud/sand that I may encounter during daily driving
5. Respectably gas mileage for an SUV

To "seriously" off road, you can't have any reservations about even scratching your vehicle...that's what my '96 Tacoma is for.

#3 really initiated my vehicle shopping...then the seed was planted and the deal is done.
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Old 02-14-2013, 02:20 PM
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#3 really initiated my vehicle shopping...then the seed was planted and the deal is done.
Same thing here! I know the feeling!
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you guys are a bunch of panzies who just want to be able to say, "yeah I've got this and that, and such and such," but serious off-roading is beyond this trucks capability in stock form is all I'm saying. And so to me it's contradictory when ppl want a cushy cruiser, and boulder bruiser all in one. That's just not realistic.. THAT'S why the Summit doesn't have tow hooks.. Cause MOST would never use them. You know why? Cause MOST Summit owners will never be in a position where you would need them. Cause obviously that'd mean you'd actually be risking gettin it dirty and potentially scratching the fancy paint or getting a dent somewhere.. God forbid that ever happens.

It's kinda like the guy who buys a 3/4 ton pickup, yet never hooks up to a trailer, or hauls anything other than furniture. But again, to each their own.. It's your money. But personally, as far as GC's go, I'm a Laredo and SRT man. SRT for obvious reasons, none of which include dirt and rocks, and the Laredo for the dirt and the rocks.. Everything in between is misleading to me.
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

But don't you want us to "keep buying 'em" so you can keep working regardless of how we choose to use them? Which we're happy to do.
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

I don't go off roading for the sake of off roading. But I will spend a lot of time on ocean beaches and in wooded areas for fishing and nature photography. Since it is also my daily driver I want it to be comfortable as well.

I keep my vehicles washed and waxed, but that doesn't keep me from getting them dirty, inside and out. It all cleans up. This Jeep has to look good, but not at the expense utility. The "U" in SUV is important and the biggest thing missing in my MDX. That's why I'm selling it with 8,000 miles on it. I didn't realize how much I would miss getting off the pavement.




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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

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But don't you want us to "keep buying 'em" so you can keep working? Which we're happy to do, regardless of how we use them.
Oh absolutely.. To be honest, I don't care what you do with em. But I'm a straight shooter. And I don't totally agree with the way these things are marketed. I understand it, but I don't agree. For as many trims as there are, there isn't ONE for the serious off-roader. That's a problem for me.. There's one for nearly every other guy/gal who wants a mid-size SUV, but for this to be a Jeep, to me the marketing falls short of what that name has became synonymous with.

It's kinda like the four door Charger thing.. Sure it's a nice car, and does well, but the initial uproar was relevant. It lost its roots. So if they're not trying to completely rebrand the GC, then they need to put more Jeep into it. It's improved over previous versions of course, but the inside is advancing faster than outside (capability). And that's not what this truck/rig/car is about. Rugged, then plush. Not the other way around. When I see "Trail Rated" badging, I can't help but think, 'but for how long?'
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as far as GC's go, I'm a SRT man. SRT for obvious reasons, none of which include dirt and rocks.
I fixed that for you.

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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

I expect to take my truck "off road" very infrequently. However, climbing fire roads, fording shallow streams, and handling very rough, snow and ice covered at times, washed out dirt and farm roads is certainly going to be happening. I've been waffling back and forth between a loaded Limited and the Overland as I definitely want my every day ride comfy and luxurious but I also don't want to baby it. I am less likely to baby a Limited than I am an Overland... plus I can make up some of that absurd premium on that diesel by dropping to a Limited.

If I wanted a "true" off roader then I would NOT be buying a Grand Cherokee... a Wrangler would be more in the picture.
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

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No offense, and this obviously isn't aimed at anyone in particular, but I question how many ppl who'll buy an optioned out mid-size SUV actually do anything remotely resembling "serious off-roading."

Maybe it's just me, but where I come from, "serious" off-roading means gutted interiors, aftermarket beadlock wheels, tires that wouldn't last 20k miles with anything more than occassional highway use, steel bumpers with winches, and obviously the "my truck is bigger than yours" lift kits. However, I have seen some stock-ish ride height Wranglers and GC's hold their own on the trails, so you guys are fine there..

But seriously, how many of you guys looking at Overlands and Summits, and even loaded Limited's, plan on taking them "off-road" more than once every blue moon?.. I find in my observations that those who are overly concerned with built in off-road ability, never use it, and those who really do live on the trails, don't care what the factory installed, cause they'll strip it off for aftermarket stuff anyway. But hey - that's just where I come from.. To each his/her own.
I live in the middle of the Chequamegon National Forest in northern Wisconsin and it can be a mud and boulder fest getting down the logging roads to grouse and deer hunt. Might not count as serious offroading in your book, but it can get pretty gnarly ('specially if you are on the ATV trails, by accident of course). You also never know what is under the snow, and we've got snow on the ground from November-April. Additionally I spend a good deal of time in Colorado and New Mexico where there are many washed out roads and crazy passes.

I guarantee there my skid plates will be scratched and possibly dented. Might stay on regular paved and gravel roads most of the time, but I'll put my GC through its paces.
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I fixed that for you.

AGREED!
I mean, yea.. Given the choice I'd always go with the SRT. But when I had mine, it was a little saddening that it wasn't anything remotely resembling a Jeep.
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