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If you're talking about me, I'm not complaining about the price increase, just pointing it out. I am complaining about the optional CD player and location of it and the loss of the flipper glass though! That's fine, I've got my 2012.
I didnt mean to call you out, and sorry if it seemed that way, I hear it from some of my friends lately " oh my god why would you pay that much for an american car?!?"so its been a topic ive been talking about with alot of people lately. I think these cars are as good or better than most imports. When you were talking about the the 4k or whatever the amount was, I thought you were complaining that the price went up for no reason, and i was just trying to say that they made major improvements to the gc's. Then I went off on a patriotic tangent. I understand that many parts are still made overseas, and so on. Im just sayin that anything we can do helps. I myself and trading in my wifes lexus for the srt, its the last import i bought. Its funny I recently had to drive down to southern illinois on business and drove through smaller towns, and there were some factories, shops, etc., and i noticed EVERY car parked outside these places was domestic, yet in the city there are alot more imports than domestics.and i remembered when I was in germany, and ill tell you, you will be hard pressed to see anything other than german cars on the roads be it in small towns or larger cities. Not because they dont like american cars, its because they support their own. Im not saying if you buy an import youre a commie or anything like that haha, everyone has their own opinions and tastes and some cars look better to some than others, or they better suit your needs, just a personal decision to try to buy american. Idk just something thats been on my mind lately, and needed to vent....
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JK - I've got one brother in Surfers and another in Auckland. Both places are amazing!
Thats interesting, Are you of American or of New Zealand heritage. Very few Americans reside in Oz.
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I didnt mean to call you out, and sorry if it seemed that way, I hear it from some of my friends lately " oh my god why would you pay that much for an american car?!?"so its been a topic ive been talking about with alot of people lately. I think these cars are as good or better than most imports. When you were talking about the the 4k or whatever the amount was, I thought you were complaining that the price went up for no reason, and i was just trying to say that they made major improvements to the gc's. Then I went off on a patriotic tangent. I understand that many parts are still made overseas, and so on. Im just sayin that anything we can do helps. I myself and trading in my wifes lexus for the srt, its the last import i bought. Its funny I recently had to drive down to southern illinois on business and drove through smaller towns, and there were some factories, shops, etc., and i noticed EVERY car parked outside these places was domestic, yet in the city there are alot more imports than domestics.and i remembered when I was in germany, and ill tell you, you will be hard pressed to see anything other than german cars on the roads be it in small towns or larger cities. Not because they dont like american cars, its because they support their own. Im not saying if you buy an import youre a commie or anything like that haha, everyone has their own opinions and tastes and some cars look better to some than others, or they better suit your needs, just a personal decision to try to buy american. Idk just something thats been on my mind lately, and needed to vent....
White6.4. While your all patriotic and misty eyed I might get just a little bit political. I am a strong supporter of America, very pro America. I know a lot of people like knocking the Yanks. But, it does concern me with the enormous debt your Country has racked up. I hope you guys can get on top of your financial woes 'cause the world needs a strong democratic America. Making your own product and buying it is a start in the right direction.
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Thats interesting, Are you of American or of New Zealand heritage. Very few Americans reside in Oz.
Actually Canadian residing in the US on an investor visa. My step-father is a Kiwi so I obtained dual citizenship. Spent some time living in both Sydney and Auckland when I was younger.
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I like the way ya'll think. @white--US Navy? Just a guess with your patriotic eagle and home location of a Naval Air Station...just one vets guess here.
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I'll hop on briefly in this string of "buy US" threads, I work for Enterprise rental, and have always bought what I thought was the best quality for what I needed at whatever price it was. In the 80's through the early 2000's that wasn't necessarily a US product unless you wanted a heavy pickup. With what I see coming from all US manufacturers in our current rental fleet shows me we are BACK to building cars that will compete with anything again. I'm here because I'm buying a JGC with a DIESEL-finally! But if I was buying a mid size sedan, I'd look hard at 200's, Fusions, Malibus and even a diesel Cruz. The 300 and the new Taurus are amazing as well. We're BACK with a vengeance....

Now if someone would compete in the small (2.0L) diesel market over here....I'd love to see some of the mileage figures Europe sees (50+) over here....I know most automakers think the large American butt won't buy one, but give us a choice!
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I'll hop on briefly in this string of "buy US" threads, I work for Enterprise rental, and have always bought what I thought was the best quality for what I needed at whatever price it was. In the 80's through the early 2000's that wasn't necessarily a US product unless you wanted a heavy pickup. With what I see coming from all US manufacturers in our current rental fleet shows me we are BACK to building cars that will compete with anything again. I'm here because I'm buying a JGC with a DIESEL-finally! But if I was buying a mid size sedan, I'd look hard at 200's, Fusions, Malibus and even a diesel Cruz. The 300 and the new Taurus are amazing as well. We're BACK with a vengeance....

Now if someone would compete in the small (2.0L) diesel market over here....I'd love to see some of the mileage figures Europe sees (50+) over here....I know most automakers think the large American butt won't buy one, but give us a choice!
Up until 2013, we had VW and Audi for diesel passenger cars. Now we're getting the cruize and the Mazda 6 in oil burner form. Much like in Australia a few years ago, the manufacturers are starting to see opportunity in the US market and they have to with the CAFE standards now in place.
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Anyone know if you can still add tow hooks and skid plates to a 2014 limited, do the front panels just pop out? I'm assuming the style of the tow hooks hasn't changed from 13 to 14? I didn't want the off-road package requirements (lux II) and ordered 20" wheels but would like the extra protection and occasional opportunity to pull some stuff.
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You have to remember that the 14 Limited is last years Laredo X model. Limited with Lux would be like last yrs Limited. Yes the cost is a little higher but you getting different (better?) options plus the 8spd.
Yes, I posted that the 14 Limited needs Lux II to become equivalent of 13 Limited. I think the point I was trying to make was that it looks to me that starting with 2014 models, Jeep will be making fewer Laredos. There is the delayed intro and very little dealer interest in this model. In the past, the Laredo was the most popular model and carried the Grand Cherokee. If fewer Laredos get built, there will be fewer bread and butter models to carry the line. With fewer Laredos contributing to the bottom line, the other GC models will continue to cost more. And, as most of us buy upmarket GC, that should concern us.
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Old 03-12-2013, 05:38 AM
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Yes, I posted that the 14 Limited needs Lux II to become equivalent of 13 Limited. I think the point I was trying to make was that it looks to me that starting with 2014 models, Jeep will be making fewer Laredos. There is the delayed intro and very little dealer interest in this model. In the past, the Laredo was the most popular model and carried the Grand Cherokee. If fewer Laredos get built, there will be fewer bread and butter models to carry the line. With fewer Laredos contributing to the bottom line, the other GC models will continue to cost more. And, as most of us buy upmarket GC, that should concern us.
Correct, Milous put figures on this before. The Laredo that you are talking about is the "Base" Laredo with no options, they want these as fleet vehicles. Laredo E is still a popular package.
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Guys, I have just finished watching "Band of Brothers" with Easy Company made by Speilberg & Tom Hanks. You probably have all seen it. If you haven't then do. One of the best series I have seen. A very moving series. Well done.
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