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Hi Everyone I picked up my 14 Summit a few days ago and I was looking under it today and noticed that there appeared to be a panel missing from the underside in the front. This is the area where the oil drain plug and oil filter are located. This opening looks like it is made for an insert panel to cover that area. Has anyone else noticed this and should there be a cover panel in this spot or is it just intentionally left open like this? Appreciate if anyone else could check out what theirs looks like. Thanks!
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That's sad... So there is no part number even if we wanted one?
The front splash guard on my '14 V6 Limited is a full cover with no hole. It covers from the inner fenders on both sides and from the front facia to the engine skid plate. You can see the indention formed in the panel where a hole would be punched out and a reccessed lip left around the edge to mount a flush cover. It looks to me like they just decided to quit punching out this hole and eliminate the need for a cover. It seems that the remedy for those that have the hole and don't want it is to get a new splash pan without the hole punched in it or insist the the dealer replace it. It can't cost much! It also seems that it would be fairly easy to fab a cover out of some black plastic to fit in the recessed area and secure it with push pins or screws and slip on female panel clips.
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

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The front splash guard on my '14 V6 Limited is a full cover with no hole. It covers from the inner fenders on both sides and from the front facia to the engine skid plate. You can see the indention formed in the panel where a hole would be punched out and a reccessed lip left around the edge to mount a flush cover. It looks to me like they just decided to quit punching out this hole and eliminate the need for a cover. It seems that the remedy for those that have the hole and don't want it is to get a new splash pan without the hole punched in it or insist the the dealer replace it. It can't cost much! It also seems that it would be fairly easy to fab a cover out of some black plastic to fit in the recessed area and secure it with push pins or screws and slip on female panel clips.
Do you have to take off the entire splash shield to change the oil then?
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Old 04-18-2013, 11:06 PM
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The front splash guard on my '14 V6 Limited is a full cover with no hole. It covers from the inner fenders on both sides and from the front facia to the engine skid plate. You can see the indention formed in the panel where a hole would be punched out and a reccessed lip left around the edge to mount a flush cover. It looks to me like they just decided to quit punching out this hole and eliminate the need for a cover. It seems that the remedy for those that have the hole and don't want it is to get a new splash pan without the hole punched in it or insist the the dealer replace it. It can't cost much! It also seems that it would be fairly easy to fab a cover out of some black plastic to fit in the recessed area and secure it with push pins or screws and slip on female panel clips.
I think the V8s have a different Belly Pan than the V6. with v8 We have to have the hole to change our oil and filter. problem is they are just not putting the cover door on the hole anymore. They don't make the cover doors anymore and you cant order them. even if you order a whole new belly pan for V8 it will come with a hole and no door. so if you have an earlier model 11-13 that came with the door and the door breaks or gets lost you are out of luck you cant get a new one. only way is to find one used or fabricate like you said. I don't know what jeep is thinking, the hole is a scoop to pickup sand mud snow and whatever else and hold it in there if you want to use your jeep in jeep environments. If any one has any suggestions be glad to hear them
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Do you have to take off the entire splash shield to change the oil then?
When I did the oil & filter change on my previous 2012 Overland V8, even though it had the hole in the belly pan, I still wound up cutting up my wrists and arms (due to the sharp edges from that cutout hole) while reaching through that hole trying to get that extremely tight original oil filter off. Damn engine plant employees in Mexico must tighten the oil filter down till the threads start smoking. I then wound up taking off the belly pan and then it was easy to complete the oil change.

So even though my 2014 Summit V8 doesn't, yes DOESN'T, have the hole in the belly pan, I'm fine with removing the belly pan to do the oil & filter change. It comes off easily enough.
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Old 04-19-2013, 05:55 AM
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

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When I did the oil & filter change on my previous 2012 Overland V8, even though it had the hole in the belly pan, I still wound up cutting up my wrists and arms (due to the sharp edges from that cutout hole) while reaching through that hole trying to get that extremely tight original oil filter off. Damn engine plant employees in Mexico must tighten the oil filter down till the threads start smoking. I then wound up taking off the belly pan and then it was easy to complete the oil change.

So even though my 2014 Summit V8 doesn't, yes DOESN'T, have the hole in the belly pan, I'm fine with removing the belly pan to do the oil & filter change. It comes off easily enough.
wait just to clarify, your 14 summit V8 has the hole in the belly pan but you have the door on the hole to cover it correct? or do you mean you have no hole at all and must remove the belly pan?
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I think the V8s have a different Belly Pan than the V6. with v8 We have to have the hole to change our oil and filter. problem is they are just not putting the cover door on the hole anymore. They don't make the cover doors anymore and you cant order them. even if you order a whole new belly pan for V8 it will come with a hole and no door. so if you have an earlier model 11-13 that came with the door and the door breaks or gets lost you are out of luck you cant get a new one. only way is to find one used or fabricate like you said. I don't know what jeep is thinking, the hole is a scoop to pickup sand mud snow and whatever else and hold it in there if you want to use your jeep in jeep environments. If any one has any suggestions be glad to hear them
Seems to me that you are making some assumptions not based on known facts.
1. V6 and V8 splash pans are different?
2. That's is not just about as easy to remove the entire splash panel as it is to remove a cover that only allows limited access. Ref: BobsWK2 statement.
3. Bob said his '14 Summit "does not" have a hole!
4. Looks to me like 5 10mm bolts and the splash shield is off providing plenty of access.
Jeep is using up old old splash panels with holes in them. When they are gone there will be no more with holes.
This is a low cost item. If your not happy with having a hole without a cover request that the dealer put on a panel without the hole. If you think you must have a small inadequate access hole for the oil filter then make your own cover.
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Does my splash panel have a hole in it or not? Ah, First World problems.
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Do you have to take off the entire splash shield to change the oil then?
The Pentastar V6 oil filter is on top of the engine with easy access and the engine oil drain is in the rear passenger corner of the engine skid plate with a nice big access hole. No need to remove the splash shield at all!
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Seems to me that you are making some assumptions not based on known facts.
1. V6 and V8 splash pans are different?
2. That's is not just about as easy to remove the entire splash panel as it is to remove a cover that only allows limited access. Ref: BobsWK2 statement.
3. Bob said his '14 Summit "does not" have a hole!
4. Looks to me like 5 10mm bolts and the splash shield is off providing plenty of access.
Jeep is using up old old splash panels with holes in them. When they are gone there will be no more with holes.
This is a low cost item. If your not happy with having a hole without a cover request that the dealer put on a panel without the hole. If you think you must have a small inadequate access hole for the oil filter then make your own cover.
Actually I made no assumptions everything I said were facts told to me by three separate jeep dealers. Today you cannot go out and buy a belly pan for the V8 without the hole in it. They also do not sell the cover door for the hole separately. Jeep use to put the cover doors on the belly pans but they stopped doing it and said they were not needed anymore. Dealer said the earlier production 2014s got the belly pans with covers the ones being produced today do not have them. If you have an 11-14 with the cover door on it and you break your belly pan and order a new one it will have a hole in it when you get it. This is according to the Jeep dealers not me. Belly pans are cheap I would have gladly bought another one, point is you cant go out and buy one with out the hole for the V8
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