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Old 05-20-2013, 04:52 AM
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Is it a Turbo... maybe the same Engine like in the brand new Maserati Ghibli... ;-)

That would mean, more than 300 hp!
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

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All-new 3.0 Liter Petrol V6 Pentastar w/VVT

Initially for: 2014 Grand Cherokee export markets, LHD and RHD. 2WD and 4WD vehicles. Estimated release date - Summer/Fall 2013. HP/TQ: TBA.

Improved fuel economy vs 3.6L (TBA); lower tax rate for countries with engine displacement taxes.
Oh another petrol motor, that won't be coming to the UK then, as Jeep only ships the "oil burner" GC's here..
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Old 05-20-2013, 05:20 AM
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Oh another petrol motor, that won't be coming to the UK then, as Jeep only ships the "oil burner" GC's here..
They did say this is export only. So you may get it.
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Initially for export markets? Does that mean it may hit the US market? I dont want to sound like a durfwad but.. I have the V6 and love it as it does its job s,ometimes I feel the sluggishness of it. I cant imagine a 3.0? Do you have engine specs Milous? Torque, hp ect.. ect..?
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Old 05-20-2013, 07:37 AM
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

What are the estimates of fuel savings/improvements over the regular Pentastar?

Secondarily, if you have a regular motor (non VVT) and one with VVT, how much better efficiency does one get with the VVT?

Also, I'm sure there will be an upcharge. What are the guesses for how much it would be?
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Is it a Turbo... maybe the same Engine like in the brand new Maserati Ghibli... ;-)

That would mean, more than 300 hp!
Here are some speculative thoughts on the aforementioned 3.0

The 3.0 liter engine

A twin turbo and single-turbocharger 3.0 V6 were planned for 2014, for limited-production models, producing 420 and 370 horsepower respectively (these numbers are probably speculative or targets). These were sent off to Italy for development, given Chryslerís stretched resources, and became Maseratiís new twin-turbo, 404 horsepower V6. There is no word on whether Chrysler will ever be able to use these engines, which are, however, in the 300C-derived Maserati Ghibli.
More certain is the normally aspirated, smaller-displacement Pentastar Six developed to avoid European engine-size-based taxes, with just under 3 liters of displacement (e.g. 2.997 liters / 2997 cc). This particular engine might have MultiAir 2, which is expensive but can increase efficiency by 3% - 10% over the dual independent cam phasing on normal Pentastars. It also might have direct injection. The reason for using these technologies on the European 3.0 would be to make up for the loss in displacement, and because of the much higher price for fuel in Europe. Since a gasoline V6 is more of a luxury item in the EU, the extra cost could also be passed on to customers more easily.
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All-new 3.0 Liter Petrol V6 Pentastar w/VVT

Initially for: 2014 Grand Cherokee export markets, LHD and RHD. 2WD and 4WD vehicles. Estimated release date - Summer/Fall 2013. HP/TQ: TBA.

Improved fuel economy vs 3.6L (TBA); lower tax rate for countries with engine displacement taxes.
You definitely called the 'direct hit is unlikely'. A NA gas 3.0L pushing the JGC's heft wouldn't have been my first guess. Though I suppose it makes sense with the displacement based taxes.

It will be curious to see what kind of performance they can squeeze out of the 3.0 using various advanced tech. They have a tall hill to climb to replace a modern motor with 20% larger displacement.

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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

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like gigi boy first mentioned, if it's a turbo or a twin turbo that thing should scoot pretty good.
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You asked for it....
I googled Marlon and a bunch of images of Marlon Brando came up along with Marlon Wayans. I found the following image: Marlon is the one on the right. YIKES!!!

No no no.

If you wanted to see Marlon_JB2, all you had to do was ask.

Here he is trying to avoid rolling his old WK while wheeling.



Well now that Milous told everyone, no turbo or supercharger, dangit. Did we not cover that already?
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Marlon,

You said trying to avoid rolling. What did the next series of pictures show?


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