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Old 09-16-2012, 11:30 AM
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Re: 2014 MPG - let the speculations begin

If they reported that the Ram 1500 has increased gas mileage by about 20% with the Hemi/8-speed combo why wouldn't the GC do the same or a little better. For 2012 Ram 1500 with Hemi/6-speed was 14/19-20. 20% gains equate to about 16.8/22.8-24. So the GC is a little bit lighter and they are improving the aerodynamics a little.

Maybe it will be about 24 Hwy for 4x2. I was being a little optimistic so when I get my 4x4 gas would be great. Maybe 22 Hwy for the 4x4. That may seem a lil more reasonable
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Old 09-17-2012, 07:03 AM
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Re: 2014 MPG - let the speculations begin

I have the V6 and I see high numbers on the highway and city, i live in West by God Virginia and the mountains don't affect my mpg all that much. I do a lot of start/stop driving and see about 18 city and sometimes up to 26 hwy with cruise set at 75. Of course if I am stopped at a red light on hill it does compromise some mpg's because of the lack of power, but I'm happy with my V6.
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Re: 2014 MPG - let the speculations begin

The crd should be very capable of AT LEAST 35 mpg at 55-60 mph on the interstate.

My 2011 Touareg TDI gets over 37 mpg under those conditions, yet is epa rated at 28 mpg hwy, diesels are under rated.

I have owned a 5.9 cummins, 7.3 powerstoke, 3.0 BMW Diesel and the 3.0 TDI.

The 3.0 crd engines hit the sweet spot with 400+ ft lbs of torque while providing outstanding fuel economy, especially on the open road.

I am very excited about the 2014 JGC ecodiesel! It will be the only diesel suv in the US to be offered with a locking center diff.
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - MPG? Let the speculations begin!

2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Gets New Technology, Diesel Engine Option
  • Date Published: 12/11/2012
The refreshed 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee debuts next month at the 2013 North American International Auto Show in Detroit, and is expected to display styling, technology and powertrain upgrades in advance of its arrival in dealer showrooms during the first quarter of 2013. Among the changes: the 2014 Grand Cherokee will offer a 3.0-liter 6-cylinder diesel engine option.

A report published in Automotive News states that both Chrysler-Fiat CEO Sergio Marchionne and Jeep brand president and CEO Mike Manley confirmed that the updated 2014 Grand Cherokee would offer the diesel engine option. The 3.0-liter 6-cylinder is sourced from VM Motori, owned by Fiat, and the engine is already offered in Grand Cherokees sold outside of the United States.

According to Automotive News, the 2014 Grand Cherokee diesel engine is rated to make 241 horsepower, is paired with a 5-speed automatic transmission, and is rated to get the U.S. equivalent of 23 mpg in the city and 33 mpg on the highway in the European test cycle. The publication quoted Marchionne as saying, "People have the wrong perception of what diesel is like." Manley said, "I think we're going to be surprised at the demand for that vehicle."

Additionally, Jeep is expected to announce a new 8-speed automatic transmission for the 2014 Grand Cherokee, as well as the availability of the new Uconnect Access technology that is already optional for the 2013 Ram 1500 pickup truck and the 2013 SRT Viper sports car.
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probably posted or speculated, but this is the first "official" text I've seen. MPG 23/33 (and that's with the 5 speed)
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - MPG? Let the speculations begin!

This is wrong. The European CRD gets 23/33mpg matched with the 5 speed, the US version will be matched with the 8 speed and mpg will be different. Plus you have to factor in UREA as that will affect mpg in the US.

http://search.autonews.com/v/6786394...p-12-10-12.htm
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - MPG? Let the speculations begin!

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This is wrong. The European CRD gets 23/33mpg matched with the 5 speed, the US version will be matched with the 8 speed and mpg will be different. Plus you have to factor in UREA as that will affect mpg in the US.

A Diesel Leap with Jeep (12/10/12)
So what's the effect of UREA on MPGs?
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - MPG? Let the speculations begin!

That is a good question. They are hoping with the 8speed that the CRD will get 30mpg hwy. UREA isn't needed in other countries. This has been discussed in the MY14 thread
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - MPG? Let the speculations begin!

If they can't get that 30MPG number, might as well throw in the towel. Marketing can't do much with "29 MPG".

They can do a heck of a lot with "30" though.

They'll have to do with they did with the Liberty CRD...advertise the range capacity, kinda like what they have been doing already. This isn't as effective though.
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - MPG? Let the speculations begin!

Keep in mind the EU and the EPA test vehicles differently, so MPG will vary between those two.

Plus, if they are using the Imperial Gallon, it's different then the US Gallon.
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - MPG? Let the speculations begin!

I'm thinking 25 for V6 and 30+ for CRD. I would think that we should know the numbers soon.
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - MPG? Let the speculations begin!

Urea is sprayed into the exhaust during operation, so the presence or absence of a urea system should have no practical impact on fuel economy.

I disagree that it MUST get 30MPG to be successful. 29 or 28 MPG would be fabulous. It would lure me back from Subaru where I retreated when I was tired of my Liberty's completely unacceptable 17MPG (highway and city...it didn't matter). I think there are a lot of people who will jump at the chance to have decent fuel economy and rugged off road capability. There isn't another vehicle that comes close at 28MPG and there are very few full-sized SUVs that come close with or without serious off road capability. I reiterate my guess that 27 or 28MPG are the most likely outcomes.

I question the text quoted above because all indications are that the diesel Cherokee will have the 8-speed transmission, not 5 speed.
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Re: 2014 MPG - let the speculations begin

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The crd should be very capable of AT LEAST 35 mpg at 55-60 mph on the interstate.

My 2011 Touareg TDI gets over 37 mpg under those conditions, yet is epa rated at 28 mpg hwy, diesels are under rated.

I have owned a 5.9 cummins, 7.3 powerstoke, 3.0 BMW Diesel and the 3.0 TDI.

The 3.0 crd engines hit the sweet spot with 400+ ft lbs of torque while providing outstanding fuel economy, especially on the open road.

I am very excited about the 2014 JGC ecodiesel! It will be the only diesel suv in the US to be offered with a locking center diff.
I have owned many newer diesel's, either in highway tractors, pick ups or SUV's. If it was me, I would be staying away from any new diesel right now. Maybe with the exception of the 6.7L Cummins which looks to be perfected. What they have to do to these new diesel's to make them run clean is crazy. Everything is so complex now and not too mention expensive. If these recent diesel (car, pick up or SUV) owners had any idea what the head looks like after some reasonable use, most would save their cash and opt for the gas engine. If people want to roll the dice and buy a new CRD Jeep, Toureg, Ford diesel, Jetta...their nuts! It's not worth the gamble. I am real happy with my 3.6L in my 2012 GC. Less potential for disaster.
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