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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

IMO, too many variable to strictly base a 'break even point' off of mileage only.

-The performance of the CRD is more on par with the HEMI rather than the V6
-Real world mileage is probably closer to sticker for the CRD than either gas engine. Strictly my opinion on this.
-If you tow a lot, there are huge benefits to the diesel
-The CRD is generally viewed as more fun to drive (you would have to put a value on this yourself)
-Diesels generally hold their value better than gas due to longevity of a well-maintained engine
-Gas engines are going to be cheaper to service than the diesel
-CRD has by far the most range due to the MPG benefit


At the end of the day, it's just a personal decision based on your needs (as well as your wants). Are you willing to pay more for an engine that hauls better, is more fun to drive with the loads of torque, and has a 600+ mile range between fill ups?

Or, are you more concerned with making up the initial price difference vs. a V6 (will take 5+ years) or the V8 (not as long to make up the difference)?
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Old 03-05-2013, 02:21 PM
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

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I think I can hold out about one more month as well, then time to reconsider as the main reason I decided on the new GC was for the diesel. The gas v6 is nice but feels a little underwhelming and the v8 is too thirsty. Plenty of other v6 SUVs out there to choose from if they keep pushing the CRD back and back. Heck, another month and I'll probably need to start negotiating pricing all over again... might as well widen the horizons then.
I just got off the phone with my Jeep salesman and he got the word direct from the Chrysler factory rep who is at the dealership today that the CRD will not be available for order until early April.
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

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Probably this has been discussed somewhere here (forgive me, this site is huge and overwhelming for us new guys) but, based on a $4500 up charge for the diesel, at what point does it pay for itself over the V6 ?

It's got to be over 100K miles I would think.

If that's true, then ordering the diesel has to be for reasons other than mpg - right?

Am I missing something ?
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On my Priced Order Confirmation

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can anyone tell me what the amounts next to HB, FFP, and EP represent?
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HB = HoldBack
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can anyone tell me what the amounts next to HB, FFP, and EP represent?
Holdback. Friends family plan. Employee price.
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

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Or, are you more concerned with making up the initial price difference vs. a V6 (will take 5+ years) or the V8 (not as long to make up the difference)?
Let me add that when the upcharge for the CRD is compared to the price of the HEMI, many buyers won't be dealing with a timeframe to make up the difference in the first place.

When leasing or financing, your total monthly out of pocket expenses for the CRD are likely to be less than those for the HEMI.

In other words, the CRD is going to save $$ from day 1 when you lease or finance (fuel savings greater than monthly premium for CRD).
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

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Now I understand why some dealers are able to give the discounts for the Affinity program.
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I just got off the phone with my Jeep salesman and he got the word direct from the Chrysler factory rep who is at the dealership today that the CRD will not be available for order until early April.
That would be good. Thanks and I hope it's true
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Have you checked the price of a Mercedes Benz ML350 Bluetec? What other manufacturer gives you a diesel with such capabilities at the suggested price? I guess the closest competitor would be the VW Touareg TDI.

Anyway. If a delay means a well built Jeep without exploding batteries (ala Boeing 787), then I'll wait.
Don't like the VW, too "jelly bean" for my tastes and not as off road capable. ML is too expensive.

Yes the GC CRD is a good value compared to the german competition, if it ever is actually available...
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The diesel gives you a lot more torque and towing capacity than the V6.
While that's true, there is something else to consider. Just like most folks will never take their Jeep off road, most people will never trailer anything. Most who do trailer will not come near the capacity. For that rare time you pull a heavy load, the V6 will do fine, within its range.

My V8 will get away from the light a lot quicker than the V6. But the way I (and most) usually drive it won't make a bit of difference to me or the person in the lane next to me.

My advice is to buy what you want. There is no need to rationalize to yourself or anybody else.

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