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One of the dealers I am working with, who was also aware of the delay on the CRD, said his source indicated they "we're having trouble matching the new transmission to the diesel". Put that in context with your "electronic issue" and I think that points to the programming of the transmission. Probably just a supplier issue making sure they don't send a CRD out with hemi shift patterns... That would not work too well.

I am surprised your dealer says they can enter orders, every one I have talked too says the CRD option is greyed out and one of them showed me they can't enter it right there on the screen.
This information is from my salesman who got the information from the lady who does the ordering. He said this on Saturday, March 9th. I can't tell you when she was able to do this. Also, I don't know anything about the ordering system; I can just report on what the salesman has said. I am not even sure different dealers don't order using different systems. Regardless, they still can't place the order.

You might be right about the transmission / electronic situation. Going forward they are also putting the "ZF 8HP70" with the same 3L diesel in the Ram 1500. I'm sure they want to get it right the first time.
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Old 03-11-2013, 03:36 PM
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

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I swear I saw one today with black lower trim at a dealers lot...didn't think to grab a picture of it. Will try to swing by this week and get a picture if it isn't sold.
Someone here posted this link previously of a Black Summit. http://riveroakschrysler.com/Invento...px?ID=13650101
I emailed Mark Gusman
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I asked Mark Gusman if the Black Summit he has listed has granite rocker clad mouldings and he said they are granite. So I sent another email to see if he can take a higher resolution picture/ or better picture of the rocker clad moudling area so I can verify for myself. I also asked if he could find out if Chrysler has stopped making granite mouldings mid production etc... or if all new black summits come with black only rocker moudlings. He might not know or be able to find out but I thought it couldn't hurt to try and ask. So apparently Mark has Black Summits with Granite mouldings. Hopefully my order comes with the granite!



I still think it looks black according to those pictures. When/if Mark sends me a higher resolution picture of the rocker moulding. I will post here.
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You might be right about the transmission / electronic situation. Going forward they are also putting the "ZF 8HP70" with the same 3L diesel in the Ram 1500. I'm sure they want to get it right the first time.
That's what I'm hearing from some folks as well. There's issues with the Tranny trying to start in 3rd or something along those lines in the CRD.
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The awesome torque must be intimidating the transmission...
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

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Someone here posted this link previously of a Black Summit. Houston, TX 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit New SUV Spring, TX Sugar Land, TX River Oaks Chrysler Jeep Dodge Ram
I emailed Mark Gusman
Internet Manager

River Oaks Chrysler Jeep Dodge Ram
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Chrysler Dodge Ram Jeep Houston, TX | River Oaks | New & Used Car Dealer

I asked Mark Gusman if the Black Summit he has listed has granite rocker clad mouldings and he said they are granite. So I sent another email to see if he can take a higher resolution picture/ or better picture of the rocker clad moudling area so I can verify for myself. I also asked if he could find out if Chrysler has stopped making granite mouldings mid production etc... or if all new black summits come with black only rocker moudlings. He might not know or be able to find out but I thought it couldn't hurt to try and ask. So apparently Mark has Black Summits with Granite mouldings. Hopefully my order comes with the granite!



I still think it looks black according to those pictures. When/if Mark sends me a higher resolution picture of the rocker moulding. I will post here.
I am going to go out on a limb and say that I think mine will show up in 10 days with granite.
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I am going to go out on a limb and say that I think mine will show up in 10 days with granite.
Here are 2 pics Mark Gusman from River Oaks Chrysler Jeep Dodge Ram sent me. They look granite to me. Hopefully all Black Summits come this way.
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Not sure if these images were uploaded or link from here yet but here are some pics of a Black Summit with granite rocker mouldings.
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That's what I'm hearing from some folks as well. There's issues with the Tranny trying to start in 3rd or something along those lines in the CRD.
Great... The CRD is getting a 5 speed...

Just odd that the electronic tranny control would cause a delay; the press fleet ones must surely be working properly, or maybe not... If that's the case, then the diesel will be faster than the hemi.


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The awesome torque must be intimidating the transmission...
FWIW, the listed maximum torque for the "ZF 8HP70" is 700 n-m for a diesel. I think the 3L CRD is well within this range.

The next step up in torque is the:
"8HP90": Maximum torque is 900 n-m for a gasoline Engine and 1000 n-m for a diesel engine.

Also, for the increase in input torque capability the 8HP90 only weighs 8kg more.

Link to the ZF 8HP PDF.
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Not sure if these images were uploaded or link from here yet but here are some pics of a Black Summit with granite rocker mouldings.
Last picture - the Beemer and the JGC.

If the JGC is a maxed-out Summit and you are given the choice of either of those two cars for free, which do you take ?

It would be a tough choice for this cowboy - quandry, quandry, quandry.
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