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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

Scott wanted to increase traffic on the Jeep Garage site. In that effort he convinced Jeep to postpone the diesel.

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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

Chevy -- I appreciate your comments, but honestly, I don't get it. Sure I understand the CRD is probably more of a marketing ploy than anything, but what is the benefit of saying something is going to be available and then just pushing it back a month at a time? What additional customers does that attract? If anything, it makes those who were debating HEMI/CRD to wait to order until the next month if they want the CRD. They would be better off saying the CRD won't be available until late summer. Then those debating will just say I can't wait, and order the HEMI.

The only thing this delay is doing is pissing off those of us who have been waiting around paitently to give Jeep $50,000 and order a CRD. Yeah I get it, there isn't much of us, but why not take our orders and make us happy? They are taking SRT orders aren't they? They don't have to make dealers put several CRD on their lots, but what would it hurt to take custom orders?

Only thing I can think is that the HEMI/Pentastar has a much higher profit margin than the CRD. But that still doesn't explain why they keep delaying a month at a time. They can achieve the same marketing ploy by just saying its not available until later summer. Doesn't stop them from advertising the 30+ mpg now.
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

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Chevy -- I appreciate your comments, but honestly, I don't get it.
If you think about it this way:

When you are looking for a new car and you see "30MPG on a full sized SUV!" and you have, say, a Tahoe in your garage and it's drinking your wallet dry, that advert will grab your attention.

You head down to the dealer, and depending on the dealer, they give you a line about the CRD not being on the lot yet for one reason or another. But hey, while you are here, check out this V6.

Sure, it's not 30MPG, but, it's also a boatload less to buy and still comes with a pretty respectable MPG rating.

We can make you a hell of a deal if you are interested.

The CRD and the 30MPG thing is no more than a ploy, like when you look at a car ad and see a screaming deal on a car. If you look closely, it will have an * next to it.

That little * will say "Includes all incentives, rebates, customer cash allowances, not all of these may apply at time of purchase" or something otherwise irritating.

It's all a ploy to get you in the showroom. If they can get you there, they have a shot at getting you in a car (any car) and that much closer to closing the deal.

Sure... the $5,000 in rebates won't apply to you because you are not a Disabled Civil War Veteran in your 3rd year of college Biology class as a minority student driving a competitors car. But, they can work a deal with you (after 6 hours of annoying the crap out of you).

Seriously, this is nothing more than forcing you to sit at that car sales desk while the dealer goes back to "talk to his manager".

Only once enough of us get up to leave the car sales desk will they come through with an "offer". That means sales will have to fall off before they will be willing to deal.

I honestly, think that the first dealer I talked to, that said, "Oct of this year" is more and more spot on.

My only hope is that auto magazines and such catch wind of this bate and switch scheme and burn Jeep to the ground over it forcing them to act.
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

I'm willing to wait a while longer for the CRD, but if Jeep is playing games, they risk losing my (insignificant) business. Now my dealer is telling me they don't know if Jeep/Chrysler will honor my Affiliate Reward pricing (1% below invoice) on the CRD. If that is the case when/if the CRD is available to order, I will go elsewhere. The premium on the CRD is just too high for me without the special pricing, and I do want a diesel.
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

so affiliate reward pricing isnt going to apply to CRD rigs!? what the hell??


agreed... the wife and i have been patiently waiting on trading in our '12 hemi on a '14 CRD, but the ordering snafu and now no affiliate rewards pricing... chrysler is about to lose a customer in us and we will probably just go with a full size truck. the CRD is perfect for us... good fuel economy and great towing (we pull 7k+ from time to time) but a full size truck will do close to what the CRD is advertising and i can easily get my hands on one.
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Only thing I can think is that the HEMI/Pentastar has a much higher profit margin than the CRD. But that still doesn't explain why they keep delaying a month at a time. They can achieve the same marketing ploy but just saying its not available until later summer.
As I read you comment, this is exactly what I was going to get at. Profit margins.

They monitor sales of the gas versions, and as long as they remain strong, there's no need to take that 'risk' in the market with the CRDs. We know we can sell Hemi's and 6er's without a problem, and there's not much room to build cars that may or may not sell right now. Couple that with the fact that we're already loaded up with orders. We're probably just now getting finished with the remainder of orders that carried over from last year! And there are tens of thousands that have been placed worldwide since launch.

Then add in the current pricing of fuel here at home, and customer's personal analysis of whether it'll ever pay for itself. Many who were initially intrigued by the 30mpg claim, see the price of diesel, and hear the price of the CRD up charge, weren't necessarily swindled by the dealers into buying sumn else, they just figure the V6 (or Hemi) may be more feasible for them. Consider how the car market is these days. With so many keeping their car for only 4-5 yrs, the CRD WOULDN'T pay for itself before its traded/turned in, adding in the price difference between 87oc and diesel costs/maintaince.

There's some marketing games going on, but there's also some caution that's being taken. And I assure you all, the vehicles you all are considering as substitutes to your CRD GC, were heavily analyzed in the market before they were launched over here too!

Again, this was already tried a few years ago. And it failed. But seeing there is room in the market for this car now, it's worth trying again, in a better package. But like I said, they don't NEED the CRD right now. And it'd serve them better to launch it in June/July as far as I'm concerned. I agree it's unfair to you all, but you all don't really speak for all those who WILL buy the CRD. Most people aren't even thinking about it right now. And apparently those that are, and settling on the gas models. And in all honesty, that's fine by Jeep!
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so affiliate reward pricing isnt going to apply to CRD rigs!? what the hell??


agreed... the wife and i have been patiently waiting on trading in our '12 hemi on a '14 CRD, but the ordering snafu and now no affiliate rewards pricing... chrysler is about to lose a customer in us and we will probably just go with a full size truck. the CRD is perfect for us... good fuel economy and great towing (we pull 7k+ from time to time) but a full size truck will do close to what the CRD is advertising and i can easily get my hands on one.
I would check into the affiliate program before basing a decision on what one or two dealers said. Besides, most dealers can do -1% on their own.
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I would check into the affiliate program before basing a decision on what one or two dealers said. Besides, most dealers can do -1% on their own.
Chances are... they won't know till the vehicle can actually be ordered...
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Punted CRD today! Just placed order for 2014 Overland, Cashmere, Indigo Blue/Brown, Off-Road Adventure II. Were at dealership as the sales manager got word of diesel delays on conference call. His best guess would be not getting a diesel until at least August. And by then, our trade would have loss value. Went out and drove VW Touareg TDI, but in the end returned to Jeep. Moved upscale from Limited to Overland for nicer interior. Now just a routine wait for a new build.....
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Jesus, Mary, and Joseph! Miracles never cease!! There won't be much sleep tonight!!! Wait for what you want fellas and don't get impatient. She's gorgeous.
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Jesus, Mary, and Joseph! Miracles never cease!! There won't be much sleep tonight!!! Wait for what you want fellas and don't get impatient. She's gorgeous.
Looking at the pictures it looks like the Jeep described in your signature. Is that what yours will look like?






















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