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Old 04-09-2013, 12:56 AM
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

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I was under the impression only QD2 requires Hemi or CRD, but not QL?
I think this is how its offered
ORA1 is QT2
ORA2 is QD2 + QL
Seems like ORA2 drops the V6, adds the Hemi which can be swapped for CRD in the builder.

Confusing....

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Old 04-09-2013, 12:58 AM
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

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We'll see when I order because I'm asking for ORA2 and 20's.
100% won't happen. Regardless of what the Jeep website shows/allows, you definitely cannot get 20" wheels with the OR Groups. In the dealer order system, if either OR Group is selected the 20" wheel option box is grayed out. And, if 20" wheels are selected the OR Groups are grayed out.
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Old 04-09-2013, 01:13 AM
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I think this is how its offered
ORA1 is QT2
ORA2 is QD2 + QL
Seems like ORA2 drops the V6, adds the Hemi which can be swapped for CRD in the builder.

Confusing....

bd
People need to stop believing the build and Price and just look at page one of this thread. You can add off road group 2 with any engine, but if you get the crd or the hemi the price goes up by $800 or so if I remember right because it adds Quadra Drive 2 with the elsd in the place of Quadra trac 2.
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Old 04-09-2013, 01:14 AM
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No...I haven't. But someone took the time to edit the informatin viewed when you click the (I) button. They took out the tire description...it was there before. They also removes the constraint that causes the upgrade /downgrade warning. We'll see when I order because I'm asking for ORA2 and 20's.

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Why get the off road package if you are going to get the 20's? That is like ordering high heels to go hiking in.
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

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Matt said it goes into manual mode. If it didn't, it would keep moving when you let go.
Manual has the following rather than my provide resistance method. Seems pulling on the handle twice might make it easier.

If the liftgate handle is pulled while the power liftgate is opening, the liftgate motor will disengage to allow manual operation.
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Old 04-09-2013, 02:28 AM
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

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I was under the impression only QD2 requires Hemi or CRD, but not QL?
QD2 is available only with the hemi or CRD. I believe that QL2 on the Limited only comes with ORA2.
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

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I was under the impression only QD2 requires Hemi or CRD, but not QL?
The note in ( ) applies only to the QD2. Otherwise, ( ) would not be used.
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QD2 is available only with the hemi or CRD. I believe that QL2 on the Limited only comes with ORA2.
Right QDll is only available with those engines but you have to order ORAll to get it. Otherwise you get QTll.
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

You can also order QDII/ELSD as a stand alone option on Hemi and CRDs on 4x4 Overlands.
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

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People need to stop believing the build and Price and just look at page one of this thread. You can add off road group 2 with any engine, but if you get the crd or the hemi the price goes up by $800 or so if I remember right because it adds Quadra Drive 2 with the elsd in the place of Quadra trac 2.

Even this is incorrect. QD2 adds a REAR E-LSD but the transfer case is the same 2-speed active box as that on the QT-2 system.

Jeep Grand Cherokee WK2 - Transfer cases

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The Quadra-TracŪ II is the MP3023 two-speed, on-demand, active four-wheel drive transfer case
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Quadra-Drive II (MP3023 two-speed active electronic transfer case with electronic limited slip rear differential)
QT2 needs wheel spin to occur and its operation is parasitic and all it seeks to do is equalize the rotational speed of wheels on the same axle while QD2 operation is more seamless, faster reacting and can actually redistribute torque between the rear wheels. The main difference is the ELSD but also the underlying algorithms for transmission control.

Limiting the discussion to just transmissions and suspension (there's some skid plates, cooling, alternator changes and a few others items that are added as part of All Weather or Off-Road Adventure packages):

QT1 8-SPD AUTO 845RE TRANS is standard on the Laredo trim which can only be had with V6
Adding the all-weather as well as the off-road packages adds QT2 on the car.

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QT2 8-SPD AUTO 845RE TRANS is standard on the Limited, Laredo and Summits with V6 as this is the base engine.
Adding ORA 2 adds on the gas V6 engine, regardless of the trim, - Quadra Lift Suspension ONLY

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QT2 8-SPD AUTO 8HP70 TRANS is standard on the Limited, Laredo and Summits with V8 or Diesel as these are optional engines
Adding ORA 2 adds Quadra Drive-2 plus the Quadra Lift Suspension.

Paying close attention here will reveal the mysteries.

The difference between transmissions:
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

has anyone ordered a True Blue color and has received it or know that it is in production ??

I ordered a grand cherokee limited True Blue Feb 13 and it went to D1 status April 4 with a ETD Arpil 24 but it has not even begun production line. ??? I may have been better to go with Max Steele color ??

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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

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has anyone ordered a True Blue color and has received it or know that it is in production ??

I ordered a grand cherokee limited True Blue Feb 13 and it went to D1 status April 4 with a ETD Arpil 24 but it has not even begun production line. ??? I may have been better to go with Max Steele color ??

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True Blue has been out for a while now. I've seen several '14s on the dealership lots in person in this color.
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