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Old 01-18-2013, 10:29 AM
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

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If they believe in this diesel, then why not prove it? For a $4,500 upcharge, the lifetime drivetrain warranty should be included to the original buyer.
If they find they need to do that to reach the number of units they want to sell, then they probably will. Maybe not the whole drivetrain, but at least the engine. But, if they reach thier numbers without any additional incentive, it would make no sense. They are first and foremost a for profit business.
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Old 01-18-2013, 10:34 AM
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I don't know why I feel like pushing the diesel here...maybe to continue to justify it for myself...and, the more diesels sold the better possibility fuel prices will drop.

Anyway...Think of it this way:

(All numbers are ball-park
Denver to Detroit is 1,300 miles, 25 gal @ $4 = $100 (that's ONE fuel stop)

Family of 4 can road trip to see relatives for $400...while pulling a camper (small pop-up, but hauling a trailer nonetheless)

with a HEMI, I'm guessing, would be closer to $600+ in fuel

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my prefered camping spots would add miles to it though 'cause they'll be nowhere near the beaten path...Man, I can't wait. C'mon March (order time)! Oh....I guess I'll need to do an axle-flip on my pop-up and add larger tires (might sound ghetto but have you seen the prices of those off-road camper trailers?...$10,000...forget about it)
MetalMike are you a member of the popup portal ? Lots of off-road builds on there...

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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

Hey SnoFire, yes I did place the order with my local dealer, supporting the local economy too. I really did appreciate your's and Pat's offers though.
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Old 01-18-2013, 11:31 AM
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No problem..Get where the dealin is good!
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

Well after my current dealership that I tried to stay loyal to after buying 2 other SUV's from them in the past 18 months still refused to give me my VON number and forced the idea of a $1,000 non refundable deposit I decided to take my business elsewhere. Pat over at Fields Jeep did EXACTLY what I asked and ordered my new Jeep with my VON within minutes of our call today. PAT you are the man.

Guys (and Gals) I would highly recommend Pat. So far this is the best services I've ever had with any dealership.

THANKS PAT....
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Old 01-18-2013, 01:11 PM
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^^^That is where I ordered mine from...Pat gets it done with no problems!!
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

I couldn't agree more. I think my users on here should think twice about another dealership and have the same BS experience I had with a dealer I bought two different cars from in a year and a half. Total BS.

Thanks again PAT....
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Old 01-18-2013, 01:37 PM
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I love that Pat is embracing basic common sense. Treat your customers the way you yourself would want to be treated.

I wish you took Canadian orders Pat! ha, I suspect you'd have even more sales!
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

I'm going to the black tie preview of the auto show in a couple of hours. In the unlikely event anyone needs pix of something that hasn't been shown yet, post up. I'll post them directly from the show floor tonight.
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

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If they find they need to do that to reach the number of units they want to sell, then they probably will. Maybe not the whole drivetrain, but at least the engine. But, if they reach their numbers without any additional incentive, it would make no sense. They are first and foremost a for profit business.
I really doubt that Jeep will see the numbers that they want with the CRD if that price premium does in fact stick. From a profitability standpoint, they have obviously demonstrated that they can sell the hemi and the CRD at the same price point, and that is in markets where the fuel cost difference is considerable more favorable to diesel.

I did a payback calc at current fuel prices and CRD vs hemi is 3.6 years (at 12k/yr) and versus the pentastar (yes, not a fair comparison), the payback is over 36 years to recoup that $4500 at current fuel costs.

One would think that Chrysler's goal is to get as many of these on the market as possible to help hit their CAFE targets while still making a profit. They have already been producing the CRD for export at JNAP for over 2 years, so any increase in volume should help finish amortizing the engine development costs.

In the US, we can reasonable expect a slight upcharge over the hemi to cover the urea injection we have to have, but otherwise I think they need to be mindful of chasing maximum profit under the "eco diesel" feel good branding strategy.

They need to get the price differential down or add in some content with the CRD option in order to create a credible value proposition in the US market. Do that and they will have a true made in the USA competitor for the Germans in the diesel market and take a huge chunk out of Toureg sales. That would be your Volkswagen Conquest right there, Mr. Marchionne.
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weck I couldn't agree more...good post.
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