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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

I received the following message from my dealer on Monday. " <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:AllowPNG/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--> that production has been pushed back two months….June production is now history……best case scenario is July production ….but don’t count on it… they could delay further because these are early 2014’s

it is the initial launch of the new diesel and I would guess there are production/quality control/supplier issues.

I will watch the orders…as of right now they have been placed in limbo with “all other orders in the system.”

This is a CRD Overland , not happy about the delay but I am sure the Diesel will be worth the delay."<!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:AllowPNG/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Normal</w:View> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <w:TrackMoves/> <w:TrackFormatting/> <w:PunctuationKerning/> <w:ValidateAgainstSchemas/> <w:SaveIfXMLInvalid>false</w:SaveIfXMLInvalid> <w:IgnoreMixedContent>false</w:IgnoreMixedContent> <w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>false</w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText> <woNotPromoteQF/> <w:LidThemeOther>EN-US</w:LidThemeOther> <w:LidThemeAsian>X-NONE</w:LidThemeAsian> <w:LidThemeComplexScript>X-NONE</w:LidThemeComplexScript> <w:Compatibility> <w:BreakWrappedTables/> <w:SnapToGridInCell/> <w:WrapTextWithPunct/> <w:UseAsianBreakRules/> <wontGrowAutofit/> <w:SplitPgBreakAndParaMark/> <w:EnableOpenTypeKerning/> <wontFlipMirrorIndents/> <w:OverrideTableStyleHps/> </w:Compatibility> <m:mathPr> <m:mathFont 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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

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I received the following message from my dealer on Monday. " <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:AllowPNG/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--> that production has been pushed back two months….June production is now history……best case scenario is July production ….but don’t count on it… they could delay further because these are early 2014’s

it is the initial launch of the new diesel and I would guess there are production/quality control/supplier issues.

I will watch the orders…as of right now they have been placed in limbo with “all other orders in the system.”

This is a CRD Overland , not happy about the delay but I am sure the Diesel will be worth the delay."<!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:AllowPNG/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Normal</w:View> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <w:TrackMoves/> <w:TrackFormatting/> <w:PunctuationKerning/> <w:ValidateAgainstSchemas/> <w:SaveIfXMLInvalid>false</w:SaveIfXMLInvalid> <w:IgnoreMixedContent>false</w:IgnoreMixedContent> <w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>false</w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText> <woNotPromoteQF/> <w:LidThemeOther>EN-US</w:LidThemeOther> <w:LidThemeAsian>X-NONE</w:LidThemeAsian> <w:LidThemeComplexScript>X-NONE</w:LidThemeComplexScript> <w:Compatibility> <w:BreakWrappedTables/> <w:SnapToGridInCell/> <w:WrapTextWithPunct/> <w:UseAsianBreakRules/> <wontGrowAutofit/> <w:SplitPgBreakAndParaMark/> <w:EnableOpenTypeKerning/> <wontFlipMirrorIndents/> <w:OverrideTableStyleHps/> </w:Compatibility> <m:mathPr> <m:mathFont 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I'd believe it when Milous states that it changes. I don't trust dealers on most of the information they get.
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

What Sno said. It is in the interest of a dealer that you order NOW!
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Yup that dealer is cluless... they cant even order the CRD yet so there would be no orders &ldquo;in limbo". Hes pullin a fast one on ya. May 7 until further notice from Milous
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

Yea seems like dealers have ordered one too many 5.7's and they are trying to get the Diesel folks to change their mind just so they can sell out inventory... I know on this forum there is a nice demand for the CRD but maybe Milous, or Scott could chime in in... What is the demand for the CRD now outside of Jeep Garage in the US? Honestly if I had known when I bought my 12 and a CRD was around the corner I would have waited.
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

As others have said.

That dealer is smoking crack until Milous says otherwise.

Chances are (as other have said) he has an over stock of Hemi's and wants to move em. The best way is to tell you that the CRD's are not coming any time soon and to buy what he has on the lot now (I had the same issue with idiot dealers telling me the 14's were not coming till August.. back in Jan).

And "June Production"?

Production starts in May for US CRDs (they HAVE been in production now for some time for EU/Aus.. and are SHIPPING to those destinations now). So, his comment about supply issues, quality issues, etc.. is again, full of crap.

If he's talking about June Allocation, that's different.

Ordering opens in May, production is mid May, delivery is, at best late June (though probably closer to early July).

Delivery.. maybe what he is referencing.
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

If the CRD is delayed again, I'm going to be really annoyed. All I'm doing now is devaluing my current car while waiting for the CRD. 2 weeks may not seem like a long time but it's already been 3 weeks since I placed, then canceled, my order and that will be about an extra 1500 miles on the odometer when all is said and done.

Tick tock, CRD. That V8 is looking mighty nice right about now. Or a V6, I haven't decided on which gasser engine I'd ultimately get...
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

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If the CRD is delayed again, I'm going to be really annoyed. All I'm doing now is devaluing my current car while waiting for the CRD. 2 weeks may not seem like a long time but it's already been 3 weeks since I placed, then canceled, my order and that will be about an extra 1500 miles on the odometer when all is said and done.

Tick tock, CRD. That V8 is looking mighty nice right about now. Or a V6, I haven't decided on which gasser engine I'd ultimately get...
But it will be 1500 less miles on the Jeep when you trade or sell it. One way or another something is going to get 1500 miles on it.

I'm not suggesting whether or not you should wait for the crd. I like my Hemi, but I'm not sure how long I would have waited before buying a V6.

Just keep things in perspective, and decide how important the crd is to YOU!


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Yea seems like dealers have ordered one too many 5.7's and they are trying to get the Diesel folks to change their mind just so they can sell out inventory... I know on this forum there is a nice demand for the CRD but maybe Milous, or Scott could chime in in... What is the demand for the CRD now outside of Jeep Garage in the US? Honestly if I had known when I bought my 12 and a CRD was around the corner I would have waited.
Don't you think it's a bit early in the model year to think they have too many V8s. Of course they are trying to sell what they. The salesman only feeds his family once the deal closes. Even here it will be interesting to see how many actually but the crd compared to the gas versions.

Was there a poll done on engine choices based on what people will really commit to, as opposed to those that extol the benefits but aren't ready to lay down their hard earned cash?
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

I am using the Affiliate Rewards Program:

According to the HQ for the Affiliate Rewards Program I still have to pay the dealers $599 doc fee. If they called it a prep fee I would not have to pay it since it is typed as a "DOC" fee I have to pay it. If they called it overhead I wouldn't have to pay it. If it is the same "DOC" fee everyone pays at that dealer on the contract then I have to pay it. This is the fee that, in the past was the only number on the contract before it had been written on. I call it additional dealer markup. I can understand the cost of doing business in Manhattan would mean a necessity of increased dealer overhead. And guess what, in Manhattan, the Doc fees are $75(State Law). The Doc fees in Florida are among the highest in the country($610 is the average).

When I say I have to pay it I am saying there is no rule to prevent a dealer from charging it. That does not mean I can't negotiate myself out of paying it. Apparently, in Some States, Documentation Fees Can't be Negotiated; I don't know which though..
I don't like to negotiate.
I am still doing business with my local dealer. If they still insist on charging it to me, I will publicize it only after the fact. (July - August - September Delivery,diesel)

This information could be found on page 4 of 7 of the Affiliate Rewards Program rules.
These rules are not available to participants only dealers.

My dealer is slightly below the average in my state at $599.

Here is a link to the Laws of different states' Doc Fees:
Which Additional Fees Should I Pay at the Dealership? What is The Doc Fee?
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I too used the Affiliate Rewards Program, and my "DOC" fee was $131.
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