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If we'd planted a tree when the CRD could first be ordered, we'd be able to build the neighborhood kids a treehouse in it when our diesel comes in!
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

I still went to the dealer today (had to get work on my '12 GC anyways). My dealer was also disappointed when he couldn't order as he has about had a dozen guys waiting to order as well.

He went ahead and ordered a '14 GC Summit with V8 for me in his May allocation just incase i wanted it and didn't want to wait for the CRD. We will see.

I really like the '14 but my only real justification was for the CRD and its gas mileage. More over thinking ahead.
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So what's the supposed deal with the ordering banks? Are the dealers able to submit orders but the factory isn't accepting them??
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

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History, prior CRD U.S.A. production start dates: March 25th, April 22nd, May 13th and now "Late June".

After "Late June" will we have "Late Summer" then "Late 2013" then "Late In the decade" then "late in the century", etc...

Pick one:
  1. Late June.
  2. Late Summer.
  3. Late 2013.
<!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:AllowPNG/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--> Here is an article from Apr 15, 2011, quoting Chryslers CEO as stating a turbodiesel JGC would be available “by 2013”. Jeep Grand Cherokee Getting 3.0-Liter Turbodiesel By 2013: Report

This article from Jan 6, 2012 quotes Chrysler as stating that a JGC diesel , “is set to arrive for 2013” and that they were adding 1100 jobs to their Jefferson North assembly plant to accomplish this. Chrysler Confirms Diesel Jeep Grand Cherokee for 2013, Adds 1100 Jobs in Detroit - WOT on Motor Trend

However, this article quotes the Wall Street Journal as stating that the new Cherokee (not the Grand Cherokee) is delayed because of “Fiats financial position”. Most interestingly, they predict that this will cause delaying updates to some of Chrysler's other products”. Jeep Cherokee faces on-sale delay

So:
· Back in April 2011 Chrysler said that the CRD would release with the 2013s. “By 2013” means “before 2013” to me, as in the 2013 model year. This may depend, of course, on your definition of “is”.
· Then, in Jan of last year, they said it would arrive this year. They really could still make that deadline.
· At some point in the unofficial posts and blogs that I found before this site, they said it would arrive with the 8 speed transmission. “Why go through EPA ratings with a 6 speed when an 8 speed is on the way”.
· From then on, first unofficial rumors and then official ones have had it being available for order in Dec 2012, Jan 2013, and every month since.

If, as Milous has said, they are making them but are sending overseas, then I am thinking they just didn’t have the money to ramp up to meet the demands of the North American market yet.

Even if the demand is there, it takes a large capital outlay, read negative numbers on a financial sheet, to make the product that will eventually make a profit. Not having the money to produce enough CRDs yet is a legitimate reason for them not to have released them yet.

However, it seems that somebody with a Masters Degree at Jeep, should be smart enough to have accurate forecasts as to what existing European demand is, what the plant really can produce, and when they will go into production for the North American market. Either that guy with a Masters Degree is not smart enough to do this or they just aren’t telling us. I am thinking it is the latter. All this doesn’t help me get the CRD one bit quicker. I am just wishing they would be honest with the start date while I sit with the group that will wait.

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So what's the supposed deal with the ordering banks? Are the dealers able to submit orders but the factory isn't accepting them??
ordering banks re-opened today for everything but CRD.
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I ordered April 30th and the order was accepted via the dealers computer and I got a VON so I don't know how the banks closed perhaps it happened after I ordered.
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Good luck, I got the manuals yesterday and no lie... The owners manual is almost 3 inches thick...I am not sure all the manuals could actually fit in the glove box. I hint we will be keeping ours in the spare tire section
Do new owners have to pay for the manuals? What are the manuals available?
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

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Do new owners have to pay for the manuals? What are the manuals available?
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Back in April 2011 Chrysler said that the CRD would release with the 2013s. “By 2013” means “before 2013” to me, as in the 2013 model year. This may depend, of course, on your definition of “is”.
The model year was never officially mentioned. "By 2013" = anytime during calendar year 2013. Chrysler's statement was carefully worded, at the time they did not want to reveal that the 2014 models were releasing early.

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...At some point in the unofficial posts and blogs that I found before this site, they said it would arrive with the 8 speed transmission.
JeepGarage was the first first source to confirm the 8 speed for the CRD (as well as for the entire lineup), and the first source to reveal that the 2014s would be released early, to start production in January 2013.

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... then I am thinking they just didn’t have the money to ramp up to meet the demands of the North American market yet.
Nothing to do with money, Chrysler is not strapped for cash. Allocations are currently being directed overseas where the % of diesel sales is very high - those dealers need product asap as 2013 models are nearly depleted.

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...However, it seems that somebody with a Masters Degree at Jeep, should be smart enough to have accurate forecasts as to what existing European demand is, what the plant really can produce, and when they will go into production for the North American market. Either that guy with a Masters Degree is not smart enough to do this or they just aren’t telling us.
There are a ton of different parts for the CRD models/engines, and sometimes unexpected shortages from any one of a number of suppliers can cause unpredictable delays.
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Nothing to do with money, Chrysler is not strapped for cash. Allocations are currently being directed overseas where the % of diesel sales is very high - those dealers need product asap as 2013 models are nearly depleted.

That makes more sense than anything else I've heard. Sending product to where it is most needed ... what a concept! Particularly when the gas models seem to be doing well here. If gas prices continue to drop, as some are predicting they will, the roll of a U.S. diesel will be diminished.

We need cheaper gas and bigger HEMIs ...
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

At this point those of us still in the CRD waiting game can only hope the CRD export run goes smoothly and they switch over to North American CRD run on time in "late June" and start pumping them out. I've got Labor Day delivery now in my head, maybe I'll be surprised. As others have said late summer is the normal new model year deliveries for most cars.
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