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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

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I'd be VERY concerned about the transmission holding up to that much torque.
VERY CONCERNED! I think it's really only rated to like 410 or something like that.
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

Must buy Bluespark chip,
To spank those wimpy hemis
Hooligans ARISE!
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

Bluespark make faster
ecoboost left in the dust
til tranny says clunk
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

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Bluespark make faster
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LMAO! Well done, well done.
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

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I'd be VERY concerned about the transmission holding up to that much torque.
VERY CONCERNED! I think it's really only rated to like 410 or something like that.

First off nice Poetry....

On the Torque, not a problem. I will find the original spec sheet on the transmission but it is capable of handling a lot. Also it is the EXACT same transmission going in the HEMI Pickup and that is standard at 407 Torque out of the box but also spec to Tow nearly 10,000 pounds.

This is the entire reason I want the EcoDiesel. It is setup to tow 10,000 pounds on a RAM so I feel great about towing close to max of the 7200 Pounds on the GC with it.

I will get you and Chivvalry to edumacate me in the finer arts some other time.
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Old 06-17-2013, 11:01 AM
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

It says the 8HP90 goes to 737 Foot Pounds... will need to find the spec on the 8HP70 but I am sure it is over 410 considering where they start at the most basic level.

845RE / 8R70: ZF 8-Speed Automatic Transmission for Chrysler cars

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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

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I have always loved the 3.0 Diesels (at least since the Urea models). Frankly when they came out with the Urea version, they all got more powerful and efficent. I have a feeling they were under tuning due to emission before.
I hadn't thought about this possibility. Maybe I need to get a tuning chip for my big 425hp Cummins to change this. My post ULSD pre DEF diesel has no odor at all to the exhaust; the new versions of that engine have DEF systems. I hadn't thought about the possibility of a tuning difference between pre and post DEF diesels.

Since there are no emissions tests on any vehicles or engines in Florida, I may consider un-detuning if possible to increase efficiency. Especially if CO2 emissions per mile driven are reduced.

In the USA vehicles that are more efficient don't have lower emissions; in Europe vehicles that are more efficient almost by definition have lower emissions. Less combustion means less CO2. The definition of emissions is per mile driven in Europe and per gallon burned in the USA. So you can have a vehicle spew out 1000 times the CO2 than another vehicle in 100,000 miles driven and be considered by the EPA to have lower CO2 emissions. EPA regulations mandate higher emissions; I think they should be changing their name to the "Environmental Destruction Agency".

So based upon this, it is no wonder that it might be taking time to get that "VM Motori" to spew more stuff per mile and less per gallon.

There is one upside to the regulations in the USA; emissions technology has advanced further because of EPA regulations.
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Well I can tall you certainly with the big trucks efficiency went up huge post DEF.

Also, yes the push on Diesel emission has actually made Diesel cleaner than gas engines now.
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

According to WIKIPEDIA...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZF_8HP_transmission

In the 8HP70 version, it has a torque handling limit of 700 newton metres (516 lbf·ft),
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

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Is that for sure the tranny that the diesel will be matched up with? I thought there was some initial confusion as to the hemi getting one version and the diesel getting another. You could be right, I just remember reading something a long time ago about that.
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Is that for sure the tranny that the diesel will be matched up with? I thought there was some initial confusion as to the hemi getting one version and the diesel getting another. You could be right, I just remember reading something a long time ago about that.
Well... 8HP90 goes to 737 Foot Pounds... so either way...

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It is the 8HP70 according to the orders system
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