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Old 09-11-2012, 08:20 AM
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After finding this forum, I just stopped the order of my new GC Overland MY2013!!

The car dealer didn't react that well... He said that the new trans will happen only in 2015 and that however the next model will be worse than the actual one (!!!).

I ended the call telling him that January is very close and I wait for an official announcement of Chrysler Group during Detroit show.

Any confirmation that MY2014 will be delivered by February/March 2013?

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Roberto,

Sales clowns are the last people that are given information on the next year's models. If they were smart and tried to do a good job they would educate themselves about all of their vehicles as well as the competition. Don't trust him...trust this site. They haven't been wrong as of yet. The guy named "Milous" is on top of things.
I can't believe that he actually said that the next model will be worse than this one. Does that mean the current model isn't any good either?
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee spy pictures

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I can't believe that he actually said that the next model will be worse than this one. Does that mean the current model isn't any good either?
UGH!
I think he was just trying to not lose a sale...
He told me that the actual 5 gear trans is better than the new 8gear trans (the only reason why I'm waiting...) because 5 gear trans consumes less fuel (!!) and 5 gear trans is better on uphill roads.

As soon as I heard his reasons... I said thank you, I'll call you in January.

I really hope MY2014 will be out by February/March!!

Roberto
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee spy pictures

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I think he was just trying to not lose a sale...
He told me that the actual 5 gear trans is better than the new 8gear trans (the only reason why I'm waiting...) because 5 gear trans consumes less fuel (!!) and 5 gear trans is better on uphill roads.

As soon as I heard his reasons... I said thank you, I'll call you in January.

I really hope MY2014 will be out by February/March!!

Roberto
With that kind of underhanded tactic, I would have said "Thank you, I'll call someone else in January"!
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Old 09-11-2012, 12:39 PM
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee spy pictures

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After finding this forum, I just stopped the order of my new GC Overland MY2013!!

The car dealer didn't react that well... He said that the new trans will happen only in 2015 and that however the next model will be worse than the actual one (!!!).

I ended the call telling him that January is very close and I wait for an official announcement of Chrysler Group during Detroit show.

Any confirmation that MY2014 will be delivered by February/March 2013?

Thank you,
Roberto
Roberto,
Milous says MY 2014 sales launch is Feb 2013
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee spy pictures

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Milous says MY 2014 sales launch is Feb 2013
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Thank you dlang.
I hope they respect those dates also in Europe. I will buy a CRD 3.0, so it will be March.

Let's wait for the official announcement at Detroit Show.

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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee spy pictures

Yeah, as much as I'd love to wait for the refresh with the LEDs, 8-speed (despite the fact that it's an unknown, and it probably will have some first-MY "issues", though these most likely could be resolved in a software update), etc., WK2Jeeps.com right now is saying that production won't start until late January 2013, so I probably wouldn't be able to get my hands on one until at least mid-late February.

Me being in pretty much desperate need for a car I don't think I can wait that long. And I'd hate to wait that long, only for the improvements to be not really that awesome of an improvement and come at an additional cost (still don't know what the MSRP will be yet, particularly on the base 4x4 Laredo).

Still hoping if I do get the 2013 that the 2014's LEDs will essentially be plug-and-play though.
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I would not expect "1st MY issues" with the trans. It's not a new trans. ZF is good stuff. I had their 6 speed on my 06 BMW ( a first MY of the E90) and it was silky smooth flawless. When I got a 2010 BMW it had a GM sourced trans which was terrible in comparison, on essentially the same vehicle.

I'd hold out on buying a 2013. Unless you buy a 2013 when it is side by side with a 2014 for big discounts.
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Old 09-11-2012, 05:19 PM
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee spy pictures

Yeah why is it people are acting like the 2014 is a complete redesign and saying it will have "1st model year issues"??

The 2014 is going to be the 4th year into production of the WK2 and the transmission is nothing new at all. Just newly installed in the Grand Cherokee. I would not hesitate for two seconds on buying a 2014 because of possible issues. It will be a great Jeep and I still can't wait to see one without all that camo!!
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Yeah why is it people are acting like the 2014 is a complete redesign and saying it will have "1st model year issues"??

The 2014 is going to be the 4th year into production of the WK2 and the transmission is nothing new at all. Just newly installed in the Grand Cherokee. I would not hesitate for two seconds on buying a 2014 because of possible issues. It will be a great Jeep and I still can't wait to see one without all that camo!!
Yep! I think the 8 Speed has been in production since 07. ZF has been making transmissions for Bentley, Porsche, Audi, BMW etc for a while now.
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Yeah why is it people are acting like the 2014 is a complete redesign and saying it will have "1st model year issues"??

The 2014 is going to be the 4th year into production of the WK2 and the transmission is nothing new at all. Just newly installed in the Grand Cherokee. I would not hesitate for two seconds on buying a 2014 because of possible issues. It will be a great Jeep and I still can't wait to see one without all that camo!!
Right, the transmission itself might be solid, but that doesn't mean the software programming will be, at least at first. I think most people's qualms with the current tranny seem to be related to early/late shifting, which I believe has to do with programming of the transmission, not the transmission itself.

In addition do we know what the gearing is going to be like? Some people don't like the taller first gear on the 5-speed, but how do we know it won't be essentially just as tall on the 8-speed?

Also if you go on the 300, etc., forums, some people have complained about issues with the 8-speed. I've not done any extensive research but I've read of a couple people reporting harsh downshifts in certain situations. Same on the Charger forums.

Finally, someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think 8-speeds for the WK2 are going to be being built at the new US plant, whereas the older 8-speeds have been being built in Germany.

Again, if I could wait, I almost certainly would, and may still end up doing so. And I'm not saying the 8-speed is super likely to have any issues in the first MY. But there definitely is a possibility, despite the fact that it's a tried and true transmission.
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The other thing I forgot is the 2014 is also getting the new Powernet electrical architecture another area where there's a possibility for some first-MY bugs that need to be worked out. (If they did exist I'm sure these could probably be solved in a software update too.)

Admittedly, part of this is simply me trying to make myself feel better about not being able to hold out for the 2014s.
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I wasn't there and phones/cameras were not allowed. I think the front LEDs will be integrated like the 300.
Hey, you forgot the seat-integrated DVD-Players you mentioned on a different forum - shame on you!

EDIT: I apologize - you didn't forget to mention it: 2014 JEEP SRT8 Interior!
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