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Re: 2014 Limited damaged in parking lot

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Well, if that's true, then that would totally change the game as we know it. In an awful awful way.....

So, there is a chance that when I had my car fixed bc the garage messed it up, that if I ran a car fax it could possibly show up?
Yes.

My '07 Liberty was in the shop at the dealership five times. That was for the five oil changes I had done. That was all that was done, not even a tire rotation.

I traded it in for an MDX. I went to the Acura dealer's used car site to see what they were asking for it. It said "Click Here For CarFax". All five oil changes were listed, although two were just listed as vehicle serviced.


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Old 10-09-2013, 06:31 PM
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You're just a beacon of good news... Do you know how much of a hit you took on the trade in bc of it?
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Things have probably changed since I retired. In NY individuals used to be able to request the info directly from DMV. Also, you could go to a precinct and make a report, just to establish a PR#.

Now I guess everything is considered private information, unless your name is Google.

Maybe the way to do it today is to post the plate # on FaceBook and ask if anybody knows the owner.


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I can understand the difficulty in getting this information. It is also why I blocked out the license plate in the picture in my OP. It all comes down to liability. If the police, the dmv, or anyone else for that matter gives me someone's information based on license plate, I hypothetically could track them down and cause them harm or whatever. California actually was the last to provide this information freely and stopped after a woman was stalked and murdered as a result.

However, this information should be provided, in my opinion, for legitimate legal purposes. And I SHOULD be able to file a police report to obtain the information. I'm not going to hire an attorney obviously, that would cost more than the damages I want to claim. But disallowing a damaged party to name a party in a suit to recoup their loss defeats the avenues of civil justice.
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Re: 2014 Limited damaged in parking lot

Looks to me like one of those Scooter lift things, for those electric scooter chair things folks drive everywhere. I'm sure it's much more obvious with the scooter chair is parked on it.

Doesn't look to foldy to me.

Beyond those tall, orange Sand Rail/Dune Buggy whip flags, there's nothing you can put on that that would have allowed you to see it. It could have had flashing strobes and you'd miss it, just far too low. It is a hazard, however, someone could be walking around the car and smack their shins in to that thing, causing them to fall, as well as utter no doubt similar unmentionables that argue4u said.
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Old 10-09-2013, 07:02 PM
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Re: 2014 Limited damaged in parking lot

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You're just a beacon of good news... Do you know how much of a hit you took on the trade in bc of it?
It was a plus. It proved the car was well maintained.



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Old 10-10-2013, 02:30 AM
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Re: 2014 Limited damaged in parking lot

Not sure of the Law in your state, but in Minnesota, anything sticking out more than 4 feet requires a red flag. If 3'11" too bad, no flag required. He was parked, and you were moving - at least 90% your fault. Private property - even more difficult to win this one. Police have to file a report if you request one. You just may have to go to the station for one - tell them your insurance company requires one. Minnesota is a no fault state, so your own insurance has to pay anyway. Good luck, but I don't think you have a snowballs chance in hell of getting a dime from the other guys insurance - can only hope the owner is kind hearted, and throws a few bucks your way. If he doesn't, at least give him a piece of your mind for being an idiot for not having better marking to better visualize so the next person doesn't hit it also.
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Not sure of the Law in your state, but in Minnesota, anything sticking out more than 4 feet requires a red flag. If 3'11" too bad, no flag required. He was parked, and you were moving - at least 90% your fault. Private property - even more difficult to win this one. Police have to file a report if you request one. You just may have to go to the station for one - tell them your insurance company requires one. Minnesota is a no fault state, so your own insurance has to pay anyway. Good luck, but I don't think you have a snowballs chance in hell of getting a dime from the other guys insurance - can only hope the owner is kind hearted, and throws a few bucks your way. If he doesn't, at least give him a piece of your mind for being an idiot for not having better marking to better visualize so the next person doesn't hit it also.

Are you sure that "No Fault" covers property damage? That in effect would require everybody to have collision insurance. In most states "No Fault" is mandatory and covers medical bills for you and people in your vehicle. The original idea was to get medical bills paid without waiting to determine fault.

When I was working in NY, and even after No Fault was in effect for decades, most people didn't understand it until they had an accident. Of course, I said most states, your state might have different laws.


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Re: 2014 Limited damaged in parking lot

Well, Arizona is not Minnesota. Anyways, the insurance company has got the names and address of the vehicle owners for me. I found a phone number matching the address online and the voicemail only gave a first name but it was the name on the insurance company printout. I left a message requesting a call back by tomorrow at 5:00pm. I'll let you all know what happens.

And for those wondering if the thing folds, Google streetview says YES!

In my opinion, this shows they are conscientious enough to fold it to protect walkers on the sidewalk when parked on the driveway, why not cars and people in a parking lot? It further establishes that they have an awareness it needs to be folded up when nothing is on it.

It's nice to have another argument that they seemingly were aware to fold it up when not in use, or else, why do it at all?

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Well, Arizona is not Minnesota. Anyways, the insurance company has got the names and address of the vehicle owners for me. I found a phone number matching the address online and the voicemail only gave a first name but it was the name on the insurance company printout. I left a message requesting a call back by tomorrow at 5:00pm. I'll let you all know what happens.

And for those wondering if the thing folds, Google streetview says YES!

In my opinion, this shows they are conscientious enough to fold it to protect walkers on the sidewalk when parked on the driveway, why not cars and people in a parking lot? It further establishes that they have an awareness it needs to be folded up when nothing is on it.

It's nice to have another argument that they seemingly were aware to fold it up when not in use, or else, why do it at all?

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You sly sly devil you. Way to use the interwebs to your advantage.

Honestly speaking, what was your first reaction when you saw that pic?
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Well, Arizona is not Minnesota. Anyways, the insurance company has got the names and address of the vehicle owners for me. I found a phone number matching the address online and the voicemail only gave a first name but it was the name on the insurance company printout. I left a message requesting a call back by tomorrow at 5:00pm. I'll let you all know what happens.

And for those wondering if the thing folds, Google streetview says YES!

In my opinion, this shows they are conscientious enough to fold it to protect walkers on the sidewalk when parked on the driveway, why not cars and people in a parking lot? It further establishes that they have an awareness it needs to be folded up when nothing is on it.

It's nice to have another argument that they seemingly were aware to fold it up when not in use, or else, why do it at all?

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Nice work getting the name, address, and the Google street view.

I had to laugh when I saw it, as I said in an earlier post;

"Now I guess everything is considered private information, unless your name is Google."


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