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Re: 2014 performance - 0-60 ???

The diesel has a very flat torque curve so it will be quicker with the 5 speed transmissions, however the gasoline engines will show a greater benefit from the 8 speed and their times will improve more relative to the CRD. I bet the V8 will be quicker than the CRD with the 8 speed transmission.
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Re: 2014 performance - 0-60 ???

My guess is the Aussies down there are simply just not at all correctly informed. It's such a small market for them they likely never bothered to care.

Otherwise, they may be trying to push people into a CRD for other reasons.

FWIW, you could expect a Hemi to be 1-2 seconds quicker to 60 than that, even with the old transmission.
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Re: 2014 performance - 0-60 ???

FWIW, the BMW 335i is about .9 secs quicker 0-60 than the 335d (4.8 to 5.7). That said, I believe most people use the 1/4 mile as a better indicator of performance. Even there, the 335i is quicker but not by much and the 335d actually closes the gap by .2 secs. In all honesty, there probably won't be much of a real world difference in quickness between the hemi and diesel.

For comparison, the 328i is way slower than either of the others. The 328 is kind of a joke to drive if you're used to the 335's performance. (I know, completely apples to oranges comparison between the BMW and JGC....)
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Re: 2014 performance - 0-60 ???

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My guess is the Aussies down there are simply just not at all correctly informed. It's such a small market for them they likely never bothered to care.

Otherwise, they may be trying to push people into a CRD for other reasons.

FWIW, you could expect a Hemi to be 1-2 seconds quicker to 60 than that, even with the old transmission.
The same info (CRD quicker to 60 than HEMI) is also posted on the German Jeep website.

And trust me, Germans can be quite anal when it comes to performance numbers.

But I'm not buying it either that the CRD is quicker..
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My guess is the Aussies down there are simply just not at all correctly informed. It's such a small market for them they likely never bothered to care.

Otherwise, they may be trying to push people into a CRD for other reasons.

FWIW, you could expect a Hemi to be 1-2 seconds quicker to 60 than that, even with the old transmission.
If the Hemi could be expected to be 1-2 seconds quicker, then why would the diesel not be 1-2 seconds quicker in the real world as well ?????????????
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I know in the SRT discussions they said the 0-60 will be a bit slower due to an extra shift... but it will be made up in the quarter mile and in areas that are more likely to be used on the street and the track instead of just at stop lights.

All the new ones are ridiculously heavy and I don't think very many people really care about 0-60. They just want their seats warm when its cold and cool when its hot!
Shut up dude....youve never driven one! Lol. They for sure didnt say the 14' was slower....cause its not. Its quicker all around.
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Re: 2014 performance - 0-60 ???

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If the Hemi could be expected to be 1-2 seconds quicker, then why would the diesel not be 1-2 seconds quicker in the real world as well ?????????????
so where are the vids? go do a 0-60mph run and record it.

Hemi's are in the high 6 to low 7 range on average stock.
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so where are the vids? go do a 0-60mph run and record it.

Hemi's are in the high 6 to low 7 range on average stock.
And I can say the diesel is low 6's, where is your vid?.
The official time are there on the web sites, in Aus they need to be accurate or it would be considered false advertising and they would get a nice big fine.
It still makes me wonder why you think it's possible the Hemi could go faster than its advertised 0-60 times but the diesel could not ? (And you've never even seen the current diesel let alone driven one, talk about head in the sand)
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And I can say the diesel is low 6's, where is your vid?.
The official time are there on the web sites, in Aus they need to be accurate or it would be considered false advertising and they would get a nice big fine.
It still makes me wonder why you think it's possible the Hemi could go faster than its advertised 0-60 times but the diesel could not ? (And you've never even seen the current diesel let alone driven one, talk about head in the sand)
here is one with a Hemi



here is one with a diesel


read the comment - 8.8 to 60 and with a chip it is at 8.2.
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here is one with a Hemi



here is one with a diesel


read the comment - 8.8 to 60 and with a chip it is at 8.2.
Both good vids, but too many variables (unknowns) between them to use as a comparison!.
Hemi appears to be in sports mode, diesel in auto?.
Temperature- Hemi 30f (-1c), diesel 16c (60f). Air density!.
Humidity- how much moisture in the air displacing O2 in the air?, in each case?.
Was there a head wind, tail wind ?.
Driving up hill, down hill?.
Tire condition?, road condition?.
Different countries can have different tunes. Are they in the same country ?.
I'll stick to the official figures, which in both Australia and Europe state that the Diesel is quicker 0-60m than the Hemi !.
The only real way to compare would be to run a Diesel against a Hemi on a track with multiple runs, and preferably multiple vehicles of each!.
And I do mean a Race Track or a Drag Strip, NOT Street Racing!!!



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Both good vids, but too many variables (unknowns) between them to use as a comparison!.
Hemi appears to be in sports mode, diesel in auto?.
Temperature- Hemi 30f (-1c), diesel 16c (60f). Air density!.
Humidity- how much moisture in the air displacing O2 in the air?, in each case?.
Was there a head wind, tail wind ?.
Driving up hill, down hill?.
Tire condition?, road condition?.
Different countries can have different tunes. Are they in the same country ?.
I'll stick to the official figures, which in both Australia and Europe state that the Diesel is quicker 0-60m than the Hemi !.
The only real way to compare would be to run a Diesel against a Hemi on a track with multiple runs, and preferably multiple vehicles of each!.
And I do mean a Race Track or a Drag Strip, NOT Street Racing!!!



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holy excuses I was not there but it looks like the diesel is a lot slower than the hemi, doubt sport mode (which does nothing on my hemi) or air temp would make up the difference in time. tire and road condition, the vehicle is AWD, punch it and go. it's not like these things will do a burnout for 2 seconds before hooking up.

I agree a race would be the best but it doesn't look like any diesel guys care that much. They just quote numbers.
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Re: 2014 performance - 0-60 ???

7.77 seconds to 60 mph for the 14 CRD per tflcar.com, FWIW
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